No more MBT�s for Canada

Narrew · #1 October 30th, 2003, 11:56 PM

I really try and not sound like an arrogant american most of the time, but WTH does Canada need Diesel Subs for?

Not for sure why I got a good chuckle over that, but I did. I can see Infintry, some armor, and Air Force with some Navy support ships, but subs? hehe, guess I better stop laughing before I offend my northern brothers.

Cyrien · #2 October 31st, 2003, 12:09 AM

Actually many nations today have Diesel sub fleets. They are more cost effective than nuclear ones can run almost as long underwater using modern snorkel systems and are excellent for close in shore defense. So it has most of the strengths of the Nuke sub but less cost and size. No wonder they are so popular with nations that don't have the deep pockets of the US.

narf poit chez BOOM · #3 October 31st, 2003, 12:24 AM

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state of the art frigates

ok, so our navy is new. i wasn't to sure what we had, but i was sure it wasn't much. and it isn't. i'm not sure what you'd find on a frigate, but i'm pretty sure we should have a few destroyer's and a cruiser or two to.

TerranC · #4 October 31st, 2003, 12:30 AM

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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:

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state of the art frigates

ok, so our navy is new. i wasn't to sure what we had, but i was sure it wasn't much. and it isn't. i'm not sure what you'd find on a frigate, but i'm pretty sure we should have a few destroyer's and a cruiser or two to.

We do have destroyers. DND Site

TerranC · #5 October 31st, 2003, 12:32 AM

For Narrew: Canadian subs are most usually used for patrolling Canadian waters, supporting Canadian surface combattants, and "bLasting" the "heck" out of American ships in War Games

Edit: Pressed Quote instead of Edit. =|

[ October 30, 2003, 22:33: Message edited by: TerranC ]

Thermodyne · #6 October 31st, 2003, 01:00 AM

Diesel subs are built for costal defense, and tend to be limited on fuel stowage. But they can pack a big punch. They are much quieter then nukes when submerged, but also very slow, high speed drains the batteries too fast. The snorkels are not all that much good, airborne radar can find them in any sea state where they can be deployed. I would think that snorkels would be a good place to deploy stealth technology. The best way to deal with them is air power; active sonar negates the advantage of silent running. And once found, the lack of speed makes them sitting ducks.

The Soviets probably built the most state of the art stink boats, some were even boomers.

Cyrien · #7 October 31st, 2003, 01:01 AM

Complete (I think) listing of Canadian warships.