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December 19th, 2003, 06:57 AM
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Re: OT: am playing D&D light and am having fun
You know, I seem to recall something about combining them when 3.5 came out. I personally prefer 3.0, mostly because I only just got used to it when they released 3.5..
At any rate, a ranger should be able to dual wield at 1st level.
The reason that not all the feats a ranger can get are in the class description is because the feats in the class description are gained just because you're a ranger. Unlike skills, class doesn't normally affect which feats you can get, (although weapon specialization is an exception), instead, the feats have prerequisites that seem to favor specific classes (like extra turning). The thing is, with prestige classes (specialized classes that have less max levels, and themselves have prerequisites), and multiclassing, for the most part, any character should be able to get any feat. (unless a character has Int 6 and the prereq is an int score so large that even if the character put his Ability score increases into Int every time he got one (every 4 levels) he'd still be too stupid to gain the feat. (although, with epic levels (beyond level 20), he'd still be able to get the feat eventually.))
Again, if that sounds confusing, it's because I'm insane.
Edit: Also, if you really want, i just started a campaign using the "play whenever everyone's on" method, and i'm teaching someone else how to play too, so if you want to play, gimme a shout, eh? (I play a bastardized combination of 3.0 and 3.5, though the ranger in my campaigns is the 3.5 one, just because the 3.0 one is horribly weak.)
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December 19th, 2003, 07:04 AM
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Again, if that sounds confusing, it's because I'm insane.
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well, i'm not. never, have been, neveoh, i've got a lovely bunch of coconutsr will be.
well, a ranger gets multi-shot at sixth level because he's a ranger and sixth level, but it only says that in the description for multi-shot, not in the description for a ranger. i just wrote it into there.
so, your canadian, to, eh?
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December 19th, 2003, 07:16 AM
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Hm... it should say so on the table for the ranger, under "special". Maybe.. (i'm not sure about this, remember I only have 3.0 rulebooks), doesn't the ranger get to choose whether to focus on 2 weapon fighting or bow? if that's the case, try looking under the entry for the focusing on bow, whatever it's called.
And, yeah, I'm Canadian. Vancouverite, currently stuck in surrey, though it's not as bad as the jokes would have you believe (for those who are clueless as to what I'm talking about, when you hear a Vally Girl joke in this particular part of Canada, it tends to be a Surrey Girl joke instead, mostly because the Trans-Canada highway goes right through the worst part of Surrey. (And the Fraser highway (I think) goes past a store called "Gold 'n Guns"). It's really kinda funny.
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ok, it does have them, in the paragraphs for other feats that you need to use before you get them. so i guess that's ok and i need to skim better. 
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December 19th, 2003, 07:36 AM
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Heh, don't worry, for the first year after I got the PHB, I was completely clueless.
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Re: OT: am playing D&D light and am having fun
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touch AC - no armor bonus
flat-footed AC - no agility bonus
ranger gains the Ambidexterity and the Two Weapon Fighting feats.
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When fighting with two weapons, normally players suffer a -6 penalty to hit with each. (might be wrong on the numbers)
Two-weapon fightning reduces this to -2/-4 (with the 2nd one being the off-hand, choose yourself whether he is left or right handed). Ambidexterity nullifies the penalty for the off-hand, making it -2/-2, however the other weapon must be small I THINK
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They only gain those 2 feats while wearing light or no armor. The secondary weapon being smaller than the primary weapon reduces its penalty by 2, but it does not have to be small.
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