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Cyrien · #1 December 12th, 2003, 03:44 AM

Ah yes... the Truth with a capitol T.

oleg · #2 December 12th, 2003, 03:54 AM

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Originally posted by Cyrien:
Ah yes... the Truth with a capitol T.

Ah yes... the one told by CNN and Fox News

"we are watching Fox" - Simpsons family

Cyrien · #3 December 12th, 2003, 04:28 AM

Sorry. But my truth never ever comes from a single source. I always review as many different sources and what lots of different people and Groups are saying and claiming and formulate my own opinion based on that. And I would never allow myself to think of it as anything but my opinion. Do I think that some people in power are doing something I don't like for the wrong reasons at times now and in the past? Yes. Due I think I can read their minds and know every motive they may or may not have? No. Do I think I can psychoanalyze dead people and know their motives? No. Do I think everyone is 100% honest in all the written materials they leave behind? No.

I have studied to be a historian and in the specific area of Historic Method you learn to try and be as impartial as possible and view each piece of information on its own merits as primary, secondary, tertiary, etc sources and to get a bead on the biases of each person. Because EVERYONE has biases and they WILL get into what they say, write, and do. Even with the best and most unbiased it isn't totally unbiased.

So CNN and Fox aren't good enough. What is the supreme authority that you get the Truth with a capitol T from? Maybe BBC? Some European news network? Independent reporters?

Please let us all know so we can get in on the Truth, as well.

President_Elect_Shang · #4 December 12th, 2003, 06:34 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Originally posted by rextorres:
Atrocities - dropping the a-bomb wasn't meant to save civilian lives - I guess it's hard for flag wavers to admit that the U.S. was already killing hundred of thousands of civilian lives - not admitting THIS is revisionist.

Could you please drop the inflammatory tone? Statements like this are only meant to provoke people.

I second Imperator Fyron.

Rextorres your opinion should always count for something as it is a reflection of your thoughts and learning. If you start throwing around statements/comments that are written hastily than others could be offended. The end result is that people will not want to take you seriously; from here it no longer becomes a matter of sharing your thoughts as it does wasting your breath. You should rephrase or temporarily retract the statement for rephrasing as it appears very inflammatory.

rextorres · #5 December 12th, 2003, 06:58 AM

Hmm . . . why would calling someone a "flag waver" be considered inflammatory!!?? I would think that Atrocities et. al. would be proud of being a flag waver.

Atrocities, however, did call me a "revisionist" his tone to me sounded inflammatory he certainly didn't mean it as a complement.

Geckomlis · #6 December 12th, 2003, 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by Cyrien:
Please let us all know so we can get in on the Truth, as well.

The only Truth he has to share (yet again) is that he does not like the United States very much.

Puke · #7 December 12th, 2003, 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by geckomlis:

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Originally posted by Cyrien:
Please let us all know so we can get in on the Truth, as well.

The only Truth he has to share (yet again) is that he does not like the United States very much.

Flame me, moderate me down, ignore me, but...

sorry, cant resist:

"Vae Victis."

I now return you to your regularly scheduled pissing contest. I mean, discussion of 'historical' events.