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				OT: list of swords or yeah right, a guy who\'s barely played any RPG is gonna make one
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		i'm looking for one with both length and weight, and either a picture or a discription. thanks. 
  
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				Re: OT: list of swords or yeah right, a guy who\'s barely played any RPG is gonna make one
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Check out the House of Knives: 
 http://www.houseofknives.ca/  
Grab yourself something from the Lord of the Rings Movies, aswell as other stuff.
 
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		doesn't have weight. 
 
i don't need to buy any either, i just need stats. 
 
umm...hope that didn't sound as brusque as i think it might have. i appreciate the effort anyone takes. 
  
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		look for weapons lists from fantasy role playing games.  I remember an extensive list of weapons from AD&D second eddition players option book.  other games will have similar things, and they will include weights. 
 
of course, functions are an entirely different matter.  Japanese swords are very different from western ones, even though the length and weight and single cutting edge of a sabre might be comparable to a katana, the shape and metalurgy make them entirely different animals.  there are major distinctions in geometry, ethnicity, and function, that just dont show up with length and weight. 
 
rapiers are devastating, but you would not want to issue them to the infantry.  cavalry men need a heavier blade than a footman.  a thrusting point can better defeat some kinds of armor, and a crushing edge (most european swords didnt really cut, as much as crush over a narrow surface area) is better against others. 
 
and that does not even touch on pole weapons or blunt weapons. 
 
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		well, the local store will be stocking d&d 3.5 player's handbooks tommorrow, so i'll see what else they have then. in the meantime, if anyone should happen to have such a list on their hard-drive, or bookmarked... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		so, Fyron, are you saying, in your cryptic, vorlonish way that the player's handbook will have what i'm looking for?      
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		I have a really nice one[chart] but it is one of my books somewhere, it has been so long since I played, I miss it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		nah, the weapons in the new D&D books have almost no basis in reality, and seem to have been made up on the spot by the writers.  plus, they're not very comprehensive. 
here is a fantasy equipment list for GURPS, but it is not an exhaustive weapons list if you are looking for details or obscure exotics:
 http://authors.aspalliance.com/steve...urps/equip.asp
a quick google search turns up this list of weights and measures of someones very large sword collection, as well as some historical data.  mostly european, and not many details on weapon type:
 http://www.palus.demon.co.uk/Sword_Stats.html
similar to the above, but a bit different:
 http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/cariadoc...n_weights.html
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		from one of those, it looks like the basterd sword varied from a proto-rapier to a heavy long sword...although that might not be true, if a) the whole thing is bs or if what i think about long swords isn't true. 
  
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