Favorite Star Trek episode

[DavidG]

Originally posted by Puke:
Classic Trek. Favorite Episode:

Spock's Brain

Ah yes. Origin of one of the calssic quotes of all time.

Kirk: Is he dead?
Bones: It's worse than that jim, they took his brain!!

[Atrocities]

TOS had something that non of the other shows had. That being a sense of being. I can't specifically describe it, but for me TOS, not counting the lame episodes, had more of a real human experience to it. People died, sometimes without meaning, as in real life. I believed that Kirk cared about his ship and crew above all else, and the relationship between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy was real. You had humor, pain, love, action, drama, basically everything. There was no commanding the ship by committee, Kirk was in charge, and everyone knew it. It was more real to me as it was more military based and not so politically correct as TNG was.

I loved TNG because of the cast and stories. Indeed there were many fine episodes that really had heart to them. The Picard one where he lived a lifetime on a planet in 20 minutes was a true visceral classic. Yesterdays Enterprise was the closes TNG ever got to TOS in respect to military feel. Both shows had their own personality and I loved them both very much.

DS9 was, and is in my opinion, one of the best character driven series of the franchise. I loved this show because it had dealt with deep character flaws and human emotion on a grand scale, war. It was depressing, uplifting, challenging, strange, and fun all at the same time. DS9 was also the only series to truly keep a linear story line. They had continuity throughout the seven years it ran. And no one can deny the appeal of seeing a dramatic space battle can bring to a show on the scale that DS9 had brought it to us.

I enjoyed the characters, all of them, and felt that throughout the seven years DS9 paid more homage to the Original series than all of the others had combined. We had the Mirror universe revisited on several occasions, and we finally found out what happened to the four Klingons from TOS. Koloth, Kang, Kor, and the weasel one from Trouble with Tribles.

The series was a grand experience.

Voyager, well I really did not like this series. I felt that it had the greatest potential out of all of them, but it lacked continuity and attention to detail on a grand scale. It is hard to believe the credibility of a show that pays no attention to the finer aspects of plot lines and established fact. A ship lost in space for over seven years, constantly doing battle and losing crew members should look the part. They should have concentrated on that a lot more than they had. Voyager looked brand new in the end, and despite the loose of life they had to endure throughout the series, they still managed to have nearly a full complement of crew. (Trek Fans kept count and the official number of counted crew members is well over 200. Another credibility issue.)

Never the less, Voyager had some damn fine episodes and was in the end, Star Trek to the core.

Enterprise is a nice series. I like the music at the start even though I thought I would not. The series seems lost though with no direction. Even with this rip off story arc from Crusader/Starblazers the show still feels as if it is rudderless.

The nice thing about Enterprise is the cast. Well done. The stories are ok, although a bit boring. The special effects are by far the best of the all the series and movies. The continuity issues can all be explained away with the Temporal Cold War. For in the end, Archer's adventures may not have ever happened. We won't know until the end.

As for the movies:

STTMP - What a dismal depressing movie this was. Love the Enterprise and it was Star Trek so I will not complain further.

ST II TWOK - Hot damn fine movie.
ST III TSFS - A stepping stone and ground breaking movie. New ships, new possibilities, humor, and Nemoy at the helm.
ST IV TVH - I did not like it.
ST V TFF - Oh brother! Someone should have taken Shatner out to the back lot and smacked him around. There are not 200 decks on the Enterprise!
ST VI TUDC - Damn fine movie with some major plot holes the size of a super nova, but what the hell, still fun to watch.

ST VII STG - I loved this movie because it dealt with something close to my heart, loss.

ST VIII FC - I hated this movie from start to finish. Horrible story, dumb concept, dismally depressing. Nice Enterprise and some good humor though.

ST IX Insurrection - I enjoyed this movie because it was a well done movie. I hated it because it has no action.

ST X - Nemeses - Well now, Data died.

From the first episode, the Cage, to the Last book released Star Trek has been, and I hope will continue to be, one fantastic ride.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Ah yes. Origin of one of the calssic quotes of all time.

Kirk: Is he dead?
Bones: It's worse than that jim, they took his brain!!

BRAINS!! BRAINS!!

[gregebowman]

Atrocities, I may have to disagree on your assessments on some of the movies. Granted, the first one wasn't the best movie ever made, but at the time it came out, 1979, it was the first new Star Trek for a generation who never saw it live and had to settle for the various edited cuts that were released in sydication. So I went and saw it 5 times. And I had to wait an extra 6 months to see it, because of the way movies were distributed back then, the movie didn't come to my home town until Memorial Day 1980!!

ST 2 - I think by far the best of the movies. I just wished that in the movie they had made a reference to that boy Scotty was holding in his arms. It was his nephew, but we were never told that in the movie.

ST 3 - Although not great, it was good. I just wish the trailers didn't reveal that the Enterprise was going to be destroyed. They should have kept that as much a secret as possible.

ST 4 - I liked it. Although it did seem like an overlong commerical for Save the Whales, it had its moments.

ST 5 - I agree with you on your asseessment of Shatner's directorial debut. It sucked, and it will be the only ST movie I will not buy on dvd.

ST 6 - a murder mystery in space. But it was still a good movie.

ST-Gen - My jury is still out on this movie. It's ok, but maybe it was the way they killed off Kirk that made me not like it. (Personally, I always thought he'd get killed off by a jealous lover of one of his female conquests!!)

ST-FC - This is another one I disagree with you on. I loved this movie, and it's my second favorite after Wrath of Kahn. I just wish they could have used the original actor for Cochrane, but I think he died quite a few years ago.

ST-I - It was ok, but it could have been better. Seemed like an overlong episode from the series, but at least Troy & Riker got back together.

ST-N - Too many questions about this movie that made me not enjoy it. First of all, WEsley was a Traveller Last we saw, so why is he there in uniform? How did the Romulans find a imperfect copy of Data? And why kill off Data? Sure, Brent Spiner may have been tired of the role, but if this was going to be the Last film of this crew, I thought it was unnecessary.

[Fyron]

DS9 was, and is in my opinion, one of the best character driven series of the franchise. I loved this show because it had dealt with deep character flaws and human emotion on a grand scale, war. It was depressing, uplifting, challenging, strange, and fun all at the same time. DS9 was also the only series to truly keep a linear story line. They had continuity throughout the seven years it ran. And no one can deny the appeal of seeing a dramatic space battle can bring to a show on the scale that DS9 had brought it to us.

Seems to me that you should love Babylon 5... much of DS9 was a ripoff of B5 in the first place...

A ship lost in space for over seven years, constantly doing battle and losing crew members should look the part. They should have concentrated on that a lot more than they had. Voyager looked brand new in the end, and despite the loose of life they had to endure throughout the series, they still managed to have nearly a full complement of crew.

You greatly underestimate the abilities of the replicator and the technology to manipulate matter on a molecular level. It would not be very hard to keep the ship looking like new when you can use a handheld device capable of repairing it (especially cosmetically) in mere seconds. Just look at the tools they have available in ST. Small little laser thingies that can patch holes in the hull, can weld dense metals together in seconds, etc.

(Trek Fans kept count and the official number of counted crew members is well over 200. Another credibility issue.)

As I have said before, this is 100% irrelevant. It would be rather difficult and a waste of money to make sure that you have all of the same extras over a 7 year period. So they used different extras over time. Big deal. Only people without anything approaching a meaningful life would care enough about the number of extras used to take the time to count them up.

The continuity issues can all be explained away with the Temporal Cold War. For in the end, Archer's adventures may not have ever happened. We won't know until the end.

That is a cheap cop-out for the crap they constantly pull with Enterprise. Don't make apologies for poor decisions of others AT.

[ January 06, 2004, 17:16: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[tesco samoa]

Over the break I finally got a chance to watch the directors Version dvd of the motion picture and wrath of Khan.

Wow were they ever fantastic....

The motion picture was redone. As was the music.

They based it on the old story Boards... The documentaries were really good.

And Khan. Well what can we say... Buried Alive...
Fantastic.

If you have been pondering picking up the director DVD's please do so.

Next up is star trek 3... Which I always felt had such a dark feeling for Star Trek. And a fantastic sound track

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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DS9 was, and is in my opinion, one of the best character driven series of the franchise. I loved this show because it had dealt with deep character flaws and human emotion on a grand scale, war. It was depressing, uplifting, challenging, strange, and fun all at the same time. DS9 was also the only series to truly keep a linear story line. They had continuity throughout the seven years it ran. And no one can deny the appeal of seeing a dramatic space battle can bring to a show on the scale that DS9 had brought it to us.

Seems to me that you should love Babylon 5... much of DS9 was a ripoff of B5 in the first place...

Babylon 5 was written years before DS9 was ever aired so to say it copied Babylon 5 is incorrect. Great minds do think alike, and to say that Paramout copied Warner Brothers is wrong.

A ship lost in space for over seven years, constantly doing battle and losing crew members should look the part. They should have concentrated on that a lot more than they had. Voyager looked brand new in the end, and despite the loose of life they had to endure throughout the series, they still managed to have nearly a full complement of crew.[/qb]

You greatly underestimate the abilities of the replicator and the technology to manipulate matter on a molecular level. It would not be very hard to keep the ship looking like new when you can use a handheld device capable of repairing it (especially cosmetically) in mere seconds. Just look at the tools they have available in ST. Small little laser thingies that can patch holes in the hull, can weld dense metals together in seconds, etc.

They can not repulate Titanium and dura steel. Those raw materials have to be gathered, refined, and processed into usuable material. Replicators have very little if anything to do with it. And besides, Voyager never had any Industrial Replicators on board. They just had standard crew and small part replicators according to the ship schematics.

(Trek Fans kept count and the official number of counted crew members is well over 200. Another credibility issue.)

As I have said before, this is 100% irrelevant. It would be rather difficult and a waste of money to make sure that you have all of the same extras over a 7 year period. So they used different extras over time. Big deal. Only people without anything approaching a meaningful life would care enough about the number of extras used to take the time to count them up.

And as I have said nothing is irrelevant if it compermises the credibility of the show.

The continuity issues can all be explained away with the Temporal Cold War. For in the end, Archer's adventures may not have ever happened. We won't know until the end.

That is a cheap cop-out for the crap they constantly pull with Enterprise. Don't make apologies for poor decisions of others AT.

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Who's making excuses for others? This is my thoughts on how they will end the series, nothing more. No matter what I think, I know they will end the series in a comfusing, controversal, and down right dumb way. So don't chastise me for trying to come up with an intellegent way out for people who more than likely haven't thought that far ahead!