OT: Galactic sterilisation

[Fyron]

Hmm... where or where did my post go? Must have been an internet glitch. Oh well. *kicks DSL* Not worth retyping it, as this isn't going to go anywhere.

[Puke]

Originally posted by JurijD:
At least in Europe we were able to preserve our differences and keep peace for the greater proportion of history. Sure there were wars but only because people like the original american settlers wanted to wipe everyone else out but themselves... BUT they all failed and now we have a culturaly diverse Europe that is peaceful....

alright, im not going to get into the political pissing match with you guys, as neither of you seems to have any interest more than a fraction of one side of the story, but the above comments on peacefull Europe are just absurd. Thanks, I actually got to laugh out loud.

You have a 60 year reprieve after over 2000 years of bloody conflict, and you think you've invented utopia? did you even think about that before you typed it?

Western civilation suffered a thousand year decline after the classical period, technology and philosophy was lost, and only at the turn of the 20th century were we just rediscovering the Last of the principals of calculus invented by Aristotel, who was killed by Romans in 322 BCE!

Give yourselves a few years, you'll be at war again. Theres constant war just to the east of you, and you're funding plenty of wars in Africa.

Im not going to tell you that anyone else is any better, but dont be so quick to pat youself on the back while youre taking a **** on someone else.

[JurijD]

1. Noone is funding wars in Africa apart from the US.

2. The "classical period" lol, yeah just another word for a time when 40% of the population were slaves... but hey your "classical" period was only 200 years back (50 years in some parts... oh and still is in others) no argument there.

3. Every US administration since the late 1970s was scared ****less that Europe might unite, kick them out and now that that is finally happening no wonder you people are paranoid about every little dispute in the security concil... I mean having 2 vetos and 1 more on the road is a big deal.

4. Anyone who says that Europe will get into another war is either stupid or thinks april fools is comming earlay this year. The old disputes over teritory and so on are irrelevent if you don't have any borders. Its like thinking Texas will invade Arizona or whatever to gain a few acres of land.

The historical development of Europe and the US is not at debate here anyway. I'm sure we each had our ups and downs. What is at debate however is the arrogant nature by which the US is trying to shape the world by its standards.

I mean why the hell isn't North Korea allowed nuclear weapons, is the US any better? Or Pakistan or India for that matter? The only reason why the US is trying so hard to "control" nuclear weapons is so they can BULLY everyone else into complying with their politics. And Since the unfortunate failure of Soviet Union, the US seems to think they'll be #1 for ever...

[ January 06, 2004, 22:25: Message edited by: JurijD ]

[JurijD]

Originally posted by Puke:
You have a 60 year reprieve after over 2000 years of bloody conflict, and you think you've invented utopia? did you even think about that before you typed it?

I always knew your schools don't give you much knowledge of history but I never suspected it was this bad... Don't judge the entire history based on the events of the first part of the 20th century.

I know there is no convincing you people that we did in fact ... inspite of all opposition and backstabbing by the US ... invet a sort of "utopia". Because for the first time in history countries have join together and eliminated borders, differences but retained cultures, Languages and all without a drop of blod.

I'm proud of it and I think our children will be too. I'm proud that I can say that this union wasn't born of war but of peace. If you can say the same about the US with a straight face be my guest.

[ January 06, 2004, 22:35: Message edited by: JurijD ]

[Sinapus]

Originally posted by Puke:

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Originally posted by JurijD:
At least in Europe we were able to preserve our differences and keep peace for the greater proportion of history. Sure there were wars but only because people like the original american settlers wanted to wipe everyone else out but themselves... BUT they all failed and now we have a culturaly diverse Europe that is peaceful....

alright, im not going to get into the political pissing match with you guys, as neither of you seems to have any interest more than a fraction of one side of the story, but the above comments on peacefull Europe are just absurd. Thanks, I actually got to laugh out loud.

You have a 60 year reprieve after over 2000 years of bloody conflict, and you think you've invented utopia? did you even think about that before you typed it?

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Worse: the profile says JurijD is from Slovenia.

Yes, people in Europe have had decades of peace devoid of icky people wanting to wipe out anyone but themselves. Especially the Balkans. Yep. No wars there for decades. Nope. Saw nothink. All is peace and calm. (...used since there is no vomit smiley I can find.)

Originally posted by JurijD:
I always knew your schools don't give you much knowledge of history but I never suspected it was this bad... Don't judge the entire history based on the events of the first part of the 20th century.

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Your ignorance is amazing. Your neighboring country of Croatia was invaded barely a decade ago and... nevermind. There is obviously no point in discussing things with you.

[ January 06, 2004, 22:41: Message edited by: Sinapus ]

[JurijD]

Originally posted by Sinapus:
Your ignorance is amazing. Your neighboring country of Croatia was invaded barely a decade ago and... nevermind. There is obviously no point in discussing things with you.

I don't need someone from the far side of the globe telling me about what happened in my back yard. You poeple are amazing, I never said there weren't any wars here. I said that we kept peace FOR THE GREATER PART OF OUR HISTORY! (calculate years of war for a country and divide by total time).

And another thing I was born in Sarajevo so I don't need you telling me what the difference between war and peace is and who did what in what war on the Balkans.

The reasons why you Americans are posting back and quoting only specific things is because I HURT YOUR EGO by saying the US wasn't such a nice country your great leaders claim it to be and you're responsible for a PILE of **** all over the globe, especially int he Last few decades when you got your courage back since those big ol Russian missles aren't targeting your cities any more.

[ January 06, 2004, 22:50: Message edited by: JurijD ]

[JurijD]

Now lets cut the crap and leve it as it is as we obviously won't get anywhere with this. Its like trying to make the Cardassians appologize to the Bajorans (for a lack of a better example.

Try to really elect a president this year, don't go to the courts again... thats another thing the classics taught us... separating the 3 pillars of power..