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Old January 16th, 2004, 01:45 AM

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Copy protection isn't just futile- it can cost you sales if done badly. Case in point are the schemes that cost 10-20 FPS in performance. This gives -everyone- an incentive to crack the game. And it always is.

CD checks can be bad too. SF's for example has the auto-run always triggering the installer..annoying. It also costs laptop Users power unless they dedicate a lot of HD space to a copy of the game cD.
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Old January 16th, 2004, 03:38 AM

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Not really much to be done about it.
Do you really think so? Or is it just no one has the will to do it.
Malaysia used to have a big problem with pirated Versions of movies on VCD. You could walk down any street in Kuala Lumpur and see stalls selling them on the roadside.

This year, I find that it is no longer possible to find pirated VCDs on the street. Why? Because the government decided to get tough on them. Not to placate Western governments and companies, but because the VCD pirates were getting too powerful and arrogant, threatening the families of police officers, burning their private cars, breaking into police compound to retrieve confiscated CDs and copying equipment. So, yes, I believe that it is a "will" problem.

On the other hand, I find that pirated DVDs and software are still commonplace.
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Old January 16th, 2004, 05:40 AM
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Take a look at the film industry. People pirate from the preview screenings, post it Online, and the film gets trashed whether its good or not. The Film industry admits this is costing them money and they are actually considering cutting out test screenings and early screenings along with limiting trailers, film scripts, and even release dates.

How long until this filters into the software and gaming industries?

We got the recording industry lawsuit happy already. lol

The fact is, piracy promotes one thing and that is the isolation of developers from customers. Developers withdraw and hide and keep more and more secrets, fearful of releasing any information.

btw, Once again Fyron, you missed my analogy.
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Sure I did. I was just pointing out that the analogy is flawed because diseases do not have the means to actively develop new ways to defeat protections.
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HiRider II: http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...3;t=010717;p=3 note, read from bottom to top.
HiRider II: Even games sold only on the internet get pirated where you live.
NekoTonya: Jealous?? : p
NekoTonya: The Boards put newer Posts at the top
HiRider II: yes
HiRider II: older post at the bottom
HiRider II: it forces you to not scroll down to view new Posts
NekoTonya: Me brb
HiRider II: So, if you were to want to tell them why everything is pirated where you live, what would you say?
NekoTonya: Back
NekoTonya: What would I say?
NekoTonya: Well alot of games sold in the US/UK arent sold where I live.
NekoTonya: In order to satisfy Malaysian gamers
NekoTonya: Pirating is the only way.
NekoTonya: Plus, import taxes
NekoTonya: I'm not quite sure we'd want to fork out 200++ for a single original game.
HiRider II: See, most people in the USA and Canada can't understand what it's like living somewhere with a bad economy and low value money.
NekoTonya: I don't blame them. The education system does not focus to foreign countries.
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Sure I did. I was just pointing out that the analogy is flawed because diseases do not have the means to actively develop new ways to defeat protections.
not actively, but they can reactively.
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Very solid point there. Our education system certainly does not focus on forign affairs or world politics. Even having sucessfully completed it, I am not entirely sure WHAT our education system focuses on.

I AM entirely sure that most people I meet are insufficiently educated, forigners included in this sweeping generalization. Most non-US residents seem to have a better handle on world events, though they seem to eat up just as much propoganda about the driving factors behind those events as do US residents.

Im not sure what that has to do with anything, but those guys have a legitimate point. Its not the evil people pirating games, is a world economy working against them. Its not like there are a whole lot of sales being lost to those pirated games. On the other hand.

This could be an arguement for taking down barriers to free trade, and bringing affordable goods to more areas of the world. That would end up in increased revenues in the end... But of course anti-globalists are the new humanitatians, and they will tell you that taking down barriers to free trade is just an excuse to abuse forign workforces and further weaken the economies of smaller nations.

believe what you like, but its sort of a religious debat at this point. not much to be gained for arguing either side.
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