OT - What was your first TBS/War game?

Phoenix-D · #1 January 26th, 2004, 05:36 PM

Perfect General 2, probably.

Wardad · #2 January 26th, 2004, 05:46 PM

Cyber Empires by SSI for PC.

I think it went by other names on other systems. Maybe Steel Empires?

RabidFan · #3 January 26th, 2004, 07:52 PM

I take it the titles are restricted to computer games...?

If so, I'm an Atari ST man...(or my dad was), so I would say

Breach
or
Empire

Voidhawk · #4 January 26th, 2004, 08:32 PM

Ahh! Breach! Wasn't that the Omnitrends game that was part of their "Interlocking Game System" or something? It was like a series of games that worked together (or separately, if you didn't have them all). If it's the same one I remember, Breach worked with the game called Rules of Engagement. You could disable and board enemy ships in Rules, and the game would automatically switch to Breach if you had it installed so you could carry out tactical squad maneuvers inside the enemy ship. WAY cool.

I could almost swear I used to play that on my old 386 PC, though. I might be thinking of one of the sequels...

edit: Yeah, I just looked it up on Underdogs. Rules of Engagement 2 and Breach 3 are the ones I was thinking of. Man, they just don't make 'em like that anymore.

[ January 26, 2004, 18:39: Message edited by: Voidhawk ]

Puke · #5 January 26th, 2004, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by Voidhawk:
Ahh! Breach!

Oh. My. God. I LOVED that game! I played Breach 1 and Breach 3 to DEATH! I had totally forgotten about it, until now. No, they dont make them like that anymore, XCOM came close, but just wasnt the same. I liked the variety of objectives available, such as insert or extract, hold objectives, retrieve items, etc.

I had NO IDEA that it integrated with a larger scale game. I feel robbed that I didnt get to play it that way.

That is one of the earliest and best TB wargames I have played, and probably the best squad based shooter. During the same era, I was playing a 4x space game called Celestial Ceasars on the ST. Prior to that, there was MULE on the Atari 400 (upgraded to 8K!), and that was probably the first. unless you want to count Whumpus Hunter, which loaded off a tape.

So many great old games, that would be so easy to recreate and expand on. So much effort wasted on crap that is expected to have market appeal.

Puke · #6 January 26th, 2004, 09:45 PM

ohmygod!

Did some searching on the web, and found some info on Breach 1, 2, 3 and ROE 1 and 2. Looks like I did play alot of Breach 2, in addition to 1 and 3 - just had forgotten about it!

but thats not the coolest thing. the coolest thing, as that all the above games, and many other very cool games (many of the ones listed in the Posts below) are available as abandonware. www.the-underdogs.com

they have a fully integrated Linked ROE2+Breach 2+Breach 3 with IGS as an 11 meg download. They have STARFLEET and STARFLEET 2, and some differently named STARFLEET 3ish sequel that I had never heard of! SF1 and 2 were some of the best capital ship sims EVER!

[ January 27, 2004, 05:53: Message edited by: Puke ]

rdouglass · #7 January 26th, 2004, 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by Taz-in-Space:
First one?

Hmmm, I think it was: Reach for the stars
for the Apple II+ A primitive (by SE4 standards) Space 4X game. Anyone remember this???

(Taz feeling REALLY old now... must rest!)

That was one of my fav's as well, but I remember playing it on a Mac Plus in '86. I didn't know they made it for the II. However I do remember AutoDuel for the II+, now that was one of my all-time greatest games for eating up all my time. Anyone remember AutoDuel? Taz?