Anyone read Honor Harrington?

mac5732 · #1 March 6th, 2001, 04:52 PM

The harrington series is good, but another series by Weber & Steve White, the latest book is In Death's Ground, is excellent in regards to fighting through and over warp points. example, they eventually develope a missle that can be sent through warp point to attack mines, shipes, bases, etc before fleet emerges, also when fleet does emerge, any mine fields limit area fleet deploys makeing it easier to attack, series has some good ideas to incorporate or devise for SE4

jdjackson99 · #2 March 6th, 2001, 05:18 PM

Finally someone compares SEIV to the In Death Ground series!! I havent read the Honor Harrington stuff yet, but I have read all of the In Death Ground books and I love them, personally I think that someone could make a pretty good mod using whats in the In Death Ground book. Hopefully anyways, Id love to have a good mod based on the book, with all the warp point asaults, warp capable missiles, and everything, It would rule!! Id make one myself, but I dont have that kind of patience

, but Id be really happy to beta test a mod if anyone makes one!

wilcoxon · #3 March 6th, 2001, 10:06 PM

Shiva Directive (second part of In Death Ground) is currently being worked on by White & Webber (no idea what the latest projected release is).

The entire series is based on Starfire as Webber was in charge of the line at Task Force Games. He was involved with 2nd and 3rd edition I think. There are supplements for 3rd edition based on all of the novels in the series. 4th edition (Galactic Starfire) is now available and, so far, seems to be a big improvement. If you're interested in strategic space "board" games (with tactical combat), I recommend checking out Galactic Starfire (http://www.starfiredesign.com/).

As far as SE4 goes, I've started (barely) working on a complete rework of the tech to match GSF (not too bad as it has tech trees, but research works differently). A mod could definitely be done based on the novel series -- I'd recommend finding a copy of Starfire (3rd or 3rd Revised is closest to the books, but is missing some of the tech (available in the various supplements) while 4th has virtually all the tech already in tech trees (missing high TL items from Insurrection)).

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DirectorTsaarx · #4 March 6th, 2001, 10:49 PM

And, of course, MM specifically lists "Starfire" as one of the inspirations for the Space Empires series...

jdjackson99 · #5 March 6th, 2001, 11:49 PM

So the sequel to In Death Ground is Shiva Directive? COOL!! Ive been waiting years for the sequel. There are a few other books in the series, Insurrection, Crusade, and Path of the Fury but I didnt think that they were as good as In Death Ground. It seems though, that Weber is spending all his time with Honor Harrington so we could be waiting quite some time for Shiva Directive to come out, but I can wait patiently...maybe. Thanks for the info wilcoxon. Be sure and let us all know when you get done modifying the tech to match GSF, Ive been looking to download some new tech trees but havent found any to my liking. Like I said, Id try and do a mod but I dont have the patience for it at all, plus Im no artist, but Ive got a little vacation coming up in a few weeks so I may play with mods then and see what I can work out. Ive got text files on all of the Starfire empires and Ive got 2 shtml documents, 1 with a galactic map and the other something about battles (though, I cant seem to open these files now for some reason). Though I might have to look into picking up that 4th edition.

Husky65 · #6 March 7th, 2001, 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by jdjackson99:
It seems though, that Weber is spending all his time with Honor Harrington so we could be waiting quite some time for Shiva Directive to come out, but I can wait patiently...maybe.

According to Webers homepage he has done his part of the work on Shiva Option and sent it off to Steve White for him to do his bit (I assume i will then go back and forth a few times for minor revisions).

No idea on release date but Weber is not the bottleneck.

Windborne · #7 March 7th, 2001, 12:49 AM

The hyper-space idea might be modded in, what you need is a component that opens a warp point, moves the ship through, and closes it the same turn, the tricky part I think is having it give the order to move the ship through before closing the warp point off.

I do something similiar with very expensive ships called warpers which I build using steller manipulation, but I have to open and close the points manually, and can move entire fleets through before deciding to close the warp point, this component though would let ONLY that one ship move through the warp point before closing it off automatically.

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