What is the Name our Moon?

PvK · #1 January 28th, 2004, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
Ok, about this company that is selling land on the moon because they filed a claim on the moon as there own property, what do you think about that?

I think they are probablyly scum, and should be prosecuted as scam artists.

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Will we go to war over the moon?

Hard to say. Humans are stupid enough to do so at some point.

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Does any one man or company have the right to claim the moon as there own property even if they file a claim with the UN and or other authority?

No.

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... So is the moon named Luna?

Yes, by some people.

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I don't believe that it is the offically world wide accepted name.

Sounds like it isn't.

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God I cannot beleive I am the first person to ask this question! Let the record show that I am. Watch now, in the next few years we will begin to see a lot about this and it all started here.

You're not.

PvK

Taera · #2 January 28th, 2004, 07:45 PM

to the original topic, not sure if it was mentioned before but wouldn't the name be Sol III A?

Baron Munchausen · #3 January 28th, 2004, 07:56 PM

People selling property on the Moon eventually will be prosecuted as scam artists. The same treaties that renounce any claims of sovereign nations over any of the planets or other extra-terrestrial bodies also prohibit the granting of private property rights to them. How could it be otherwise? Property rights are granted and mediated by sovereign nations! How stupid do you think the UN is? (Ok, don't answer that one...) Anyone who thought about the issue for 10 minutes would realize that disallowing sovereign claims would have to also disallow private property to prevent 'proxy' control.

[ January 28, 2004, 17:57: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]

geoschmo · #4 January 28th, 2004, 08:05 PM

Although, if someone were to figure out a way to get to the moon with some people, they could make a potentially legitimate claim of sovereignty. The moon, or some portion of it would be then a new independant country. They'd have to be recognized of course by the nations of earth for it to mean anything. But I cannot as a private citizen of the US claim a part of the moon, because as Baron says, in effect that is saying the US has proxy control over that territory. And the US and other nations have signed treaties forbiding that.

Narrew · #5 January 28th, 2004, 08:14 PM

Baron I think your right only because there is no nation going up there. I think the whole issue will change (including existing treaties you mentioned) if one country (or a group of them such as the E.U.) makes it a priority to go to the moon or other planetoid. What is there to stop someone if there is no one else there and by the time there would be competing Countries, the infrastructure would be there and the owning country would just say, move on over there, we were here first.

I think it would be interesting to see how things will go, but I assure you the countries that do not spend the money to go "out there" will DEMAND their portion of the pie.

But as I said it is moot now, no one is actually doing anything. even if we get a science outpost on the moon wouldnt count, not big enough project.

Baron Munchausen · #6 January 28th, 2004, 08:20 PM

Of course, if the current political climate of the USA continues on course it's entirely possible that some future administration will simply withdraw from the treaties if it finds some advantage in doing so and claim the Moon as US territory.

Combat Wombat · #7 January 28th, 2004, 08:27 PM

I'm not sure if this has been said yet because I don't have the time to read the entire thread but didn't the US sign a treaty stating that no country can claim a planet or moon or whatever for themselves. I don't remember where I heard this or any details about it but if someone else knows of this treaty could they give me a link to it or explain it in detail.