Question on meeting in nebulas...

[PvK]

Really? Are you sure your ships weren't just cloaked, and therefore obeying orders to not initiate combat?

PvK

[geoschmo]

Yeah Q, it's probably what PVK said and your ships were cloaked as well as in an obscuring storm. Because what you are describing does happen when your ship is cloaked, but not when it's obscured by a storm or nebulae. If your ships in a nebulae have enough sensors to see the enemy they will engage, whether or not they are moving or merely sitting still and defending.

[Q]

No additional cloaking, just the nebula. Just checked it again in Version 1.84 and ships will not engage if the enemy enters the sector altough the ships are seen. However if the enemy sees your ships then the combat will take place. The empire that moves must see the enemy otherwise no combat will occur.

[Rollo]

I can partly confirm this.

What Q describes I could reproduce in turn-based play.

In simaltaneous play, however, all works fine and combat takes place.

tested with 1.84, btw

[geoschmo]

Yeah, I tested it as well and could not confirm it Q, but unlike Rollo I only tried it in simultaneous. Is it turn based you are talking about here? Definetly sounds like a bug. You should send a save game to Malfador about that one even if it's just a turn based problem.

[Rollo]

Here is a little extra info: I tried it again in turn-based. This time versus the AI. I sat in a nebula with a little fleet that had sensors to see the AI ships. The AI couldn't see me. Yet, when the AI was doing its turn combat would occur.

Seems what Q descibes only happens when a human player enters a sector in turn based mode.

[geoschmo]

Actaully that makes sense Rollo since the AI plays turn based games in simultaneous mode. So the problem is definetly something broken in whatever part of the code controls turn based movement.