An Interesting Game.....

Sivran · #1 February 15th, 2004, 09:50 AM

They may have decided you're the mega-evil empire.

Watch for other AIs also suddenly declaring war on you.

As for the psychic weapon that's out-ranging you...this is possibly the result of weapon platform mounts, as they increase a weapon's range where ship and base mounts don't. If you want to glimpse into the future of weapons technology, make yourself a new game and set tech level for new players to high. You'll start with all techs, and under Help, you can find a weapons report. Good info to have.

[ February 15, 2004, 07:56: Message edited by: Sivran ]

Alneyan · #2 February 15th, 2004, 12:14 PM

Actually using the Master Computer *will* gain space for Cruisers and above, as if you have Master Computers, you don't need to put Bridges/Life Supports/Crew Quarters. So even with Computers I (which gives a 40kt Master Computer), you will gain 10kt on your Battle Cruisers. However, if you are afraid of Computer Viruses, you may put one Bridge/Life Support/Crew Quarter plus the Computer so that you will not lose all movement when the Computer goes down.

Bases mounts do increase range, as Satellites mounts (if anyone bothers to research Large Satellites) and Weapon platforms mounts, so it probably explains why you were outranged. Were they using their heavy direct fire weapon which does a lot of damage but only fires every four turns? If they didn't have much PDC on their weapon platforms, you might consider using fighters to take down the weapon platforms, but if there are few settlers on the planet, capturing the planet without destroying it will prove to be hard.

The AIs may have declared on you only because of colonization rivalry. If memory serves right, the AI claims as its own any colonized system and all neighbouring systems, so every planet of yours in these claimed systems will bother me. It poses quite a problem with Partnership as well, since the AI will know where are your colonies and may want a lot of these. Or of course you may very well be the Mega Evil Empire, if you have a nice lead.

Starhawk · #3 February 15th, 2004, 06:15 PM

[QUOTE If you want to glimpse into the future of weapons technology, make yourself a new game and set tech level for new players to high. You'll start with all techs, and under Help, you can find a weapons report. Good info to have.

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I did the whole skip into the future with the first game I played because I wanted to see the techs....the weapon used was a telekentic burst thing I beleive and the only way for ME to outrange it is to develope WMGs which I will do I suppose as soon as I can figure out my immediate security problems.

"Actually using the Master Computer *will* gain space for Cruisers and above, as if you have Master Computers, you don't need to put Bridges/Life Supports/Crew Quarters. So even with Computers I (which gives a 40kt Master Computer), you will gain 10kt on your Battle Cruisers. However, if you are afraid of Computer Viruses, you may put one Bridge/Life Support/Crew Quarter plus the Computer so that you will not lose all movement when the Computer goes down."

That's what I usually do when I put comps on my BBs and bigger ships because I am not willing to risk my whole ship on maybe one lucky shot taking down the comp or some schmo with a virus disabling my fleet

. But right now 10kt isn't worth the time and expense of refitting my fleet (especially because thus far anytime I try to retrofit my 2nd fleet which is bordering Cue space I've been attacked and had to rely on Last minute completion of a few of the upgrades on usually half of the actual fleet to defend myself). Problem is I lost 1 ship with 1 left in spacedock for repairs and only 4 combat ready ships on line so I can't risk pausing until the other 4 BCs come on-line after their retrofit and repairs.

AMF · #4 February 15th, 2004, 06:23 PM

Does anyone know exactly what the effect is of losing all the control spaces on a ship? Fer instance, if I have a ship with an MC, and it gets bLasted, what effect does that have on the ship?

thanks,

alarik

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Originally posted by Starhawk:
[QUOTE If you want to glimpse into the future of weapons technology, make yourself a new game and set tech level for new players to high. You'll start with all techs, and under Help, you can find a weapons report. Good info to have.

I did the whole skip into the future with the first game I played because I wanted to see the techs....the weapon used was a telekentic burst thing I beleive and the only way for ME to outrange it is to develope WMGs which I will do I suppose as soon as I can figure out my immediate security problems.

"Actually using the Master Computer *will* gain space for Cruisers and above, as if you have Master Computers, you don't need to put Bridges/Life Supports/Crew Quarters. So even with Computers I (which gives a 40kt Master Computer), you will gain 10kt on your Battle Cruisers. However, if you are afraid of Computer Viruses, you may put one Bridge/Life Support/Crew Quarter plus the Computer so that you will not lose all movement when the Computer goes down."

That's what I usually do when I put comps on my BBs and bigger ships because I am not willing to risk my whole ship on maybe one lucky shot taking down the comp or some schmo with a virus disabling my fleet

. But right now 10kt isn't worth the time and expense of refitting my fleet (especially because thus far anytime I try to retrofit my 2nd fleet which is bordering Cue space I've been attacked and had to rely on Last minute completion of a few of the upgrades on usually half of the actual fleet to defend myself). Problem is I lost 1 ship with 1 left in spacedock for repairs and only 4 combat ready ships on line so I can't risk pausing until the other 4 BCs come on-line after their retrofit and repairs. [/QB][/quote]

Starhawk · #5 February 15th, 2004, 09:33 PM

Well if the bridge or master control is disabled by whatever means then the ship simply stops functioning properly, in battle i beleive you don't get to fire anymore and in movemeny phases I beleive it loses all but 1 movement point as I suppose it is assumed it's being towed back to base.

However if they have a virus they could possibly shut down your whole navy if it consists of ships that only have MCs so I wouldn't risk that if I were you.....hehe anyone see Sci-Fi's Battlestar Galactica LOL.

Phoenix-D · #6 February 15th, 2004, 09:44 PM

The effect is the same either way- no control, 1 movement point. You can still fire fine.

Suicide Junkie · #7 February 15th, 2004, 09:45 PM

Losing C&C does not prevent you from firing.
-> 1/2 speed for no bridge
-> 1/4 speed for no LS
-> 1/2 speed for no CQ.
The modifiers multiply.
So losing all drops you to 1/16th speed.

I don't know why you are so resistant to the idea of adding MCs.
They will make you immune to conVersion and save space. How often do you ever actually lose your C&C without the entire ship being destroyed in the process?