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 and my point is that there being eroded in the us and somewhat in canada 'for our own good'. 
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				February 16th, 2004, 08:22 PM
			
			
			
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	No, that is just plain wrong.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM: police state=communism+-2.
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 police state ~ fascism.
 
 Communism has nothing to do with that.
 
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				February 16th, 2004, 08:25 PM
			
			
			
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 communism is forced socialism.
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				February 16th, 2004, 08:26 PM
			
			
			
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				February 16th, 2004, 08:30 PM
			
			
			
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	Thanks, Tesco!Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by tesco samoa: Slynky I do not think you opened a can of worms.
 
 I value your opinion.
 
 And please no country bashing. I wish to keep this thread to its original intent and that is the issue of Rights and Freedoms.
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 Let me say right off...this is one of my favortie forums.  Although we don't live down the street from each other, in this world of the Internet, it's the next best things.  It is rare, if ever, that I will lash out at someone or say that something they wrote is stupid.  I try to treat this "distance" that the Internet gives us as if the guy were in the room with me.
 
 Having said that...I don't think I was picking on a country.  If I was desparaging a country, it was the US.  As a citizen, and as one who fought in a war and one who served to help protect the freedom we have in the US, I feel I have the right to say things about the US that aren't sweet.
 
 As a person who has visited over 25 countries, one who enjoys the exchange and views of people of different countries, I think I am the Last person to find fault with another country because all of them have their good points and bad points...same as the US.
 
 And, I hope, I spoke to the rights and freedoms of a country as you initially started...the US...and what they were doing.  Because, when you reduce the average human to their basic desires, I think it comes down to this:  All want the opportunity to grow up safely, get married, have a family, and give them the best life they can have.  No matter where they live!
 
 So, to summarize, I don't think I was doing any "country bashing".  If I misunderstood the initial post, please correct me.
 
 Hehe, and I said, YOU opened the can of worms...not me...LOL
 
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 police state ~ fascism ~ communism.
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	unforced communism is socialism. that's my point.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Rollo: Communism doesn't have to be forced. That's my point.
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