OT: Matrix

[General Woundwort]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
As far as my least favorite movies, well, I already mentioned Superman 4, and it seems General Woundwort and I both hate Highlander 2. Another movie I don't ever watch is Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. Once was too much for that movie. Don't remember ever seeing Eraserhead, so I'll reserve judgement on that movie until I see it.

Highlander II was the only movie I have walked out of and demanded my money back for. (I came pretty darn close with Aliens IV, however...)

As for AOTKT, you're being too harsh. "Tomatoes" was supposed to be a bad movie - it's like "Plan 9", you know from square one what you're going to get (campy nonsense), and that's its entertainment value. Mind you, I was not so entertained by AOTKT that I'd see it again - but I'd hardly call it so bad as to be worth avoiding.

Unlike Eraserhead. Avoid it at ALL COSTS. Trust me, those are 90 minutes of my life I'd give my left arm to have back...

EDIT -

At least they're going for a fifth Batman movie. Hope it's good.

Given the track record of the ones after the first? Good luck. The Batman sequels won in the Worst Director Category in the Grudge-Match Oscars...

http://www.grudge-match.com/History/...director.shtml

[ March 25, 2004, 21:06: Message edited by: General Woundwort ]

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by General Woundwort:

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Originally posted by gregebowman:
As far as my least favorite movies, well, I already mentioned Superman 4, and it seems General Woundwort and I both hate Highlander 2. Another movie I don't ever watch is Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. Once was too much for that movie. Don't remember ever seeing Eraserhead, so I'll reserve judgement on that movie until I see it.

Highlander II was the only movie I have walked out of and demanded my money back for. (I came pretty darn close with Aliens IV, however...)

As for AOTKT, you're being too harsh. "Tomatoes" was supposed to be a bad movie - it's like "Plan 9", you know from square one what you're going to get (campy nonsense), and that's its entertainment value. Mind you, I was not so entertained by AOTKT that I'd see it again - but I'd hardly call it so bad as to be worth avoiding.

Unlike Eraserhead. Avoid it at ALL COSTS. Trust me, those are 90 minutes of my life I'd give my left arm to have back...

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Well, there were a couple of good scenes from AOTKT that I still get a chukle from (especially the guy in the tomatoe suit asking for ketchup). I happened to catch it on late night tv one time, so maybe some stuff got edited out. Maybe I'll watch it again if it ever comes on, but I don't think I'll be buying the dvd that came out recently.

As far as Highlander, maybe you can answer my question about the 4th movie. I know they were trying to bridge the movies and the series, but the end result has left me confused. How can Duncan be The One, when Connor was already The One some 15 years before? Which also made no sense for the 3rd movie, as how could Connor get his powers when there were 3 frozen immortals still waiting to be killed? They should have let the original creator come back to write the sequels. At least I think we would have some continuity then.

[General Woundwort]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
As far as Highlander, maybe you can answer my question about the 4th movie. I know they were trying to bridge the movies and the series, but the end result has left me confused. How can Duncan be The One, when Connor was already The One some 15 years before? Which also made no sense for the 3rd movie, as how could Connor get his powers when there were 3 frozen immortals still waiting to be killed? They should have let the original creator come back to write the sequels. At least I think we would have some continuity then.

Got me. I never saw III or IV. HII (very) effectively killed my interest in the series.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

The highlander movies aren't worth watching. Watch the two series, if they come out in your area.

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
The highlander movies aren't worth watching. Watch the two series, if they come out in your area.

Your statement is true, except for the first movie. That is still an excellant movie; I just wished the studios had treated the sequels with more respect, instead of just throwing them out there. The series was good also. Wish I had the money to buy the dvd sets.

[Yef]

How bad does a movie needs to be to get into the Worst Ever group?
I would say that the disappointment factor should be the rule to judge by. Movies that we expect to be awesome but we come out of the theater extremely disappointed. If so, than my list of "Worst ever" would be:

1- Return of the King. I still can't get over that greeny stuff winning the battle of Pelennor fields. The battle was won in the book by the sacrify of the humans in Middle Earth, and it was won at the price of heavy cassualties. Peter Jackson completely missed Tolkien's message of the Price of Victory, which Tolkiens got from his experiences during WW1.

2- Matrix 2 & 3. I don't think they were totally bad, but they added several layers of confussion to the main history, as outlined in the 1st movie, and thus they were a big disappoinment.

3- Terminator 3. Another good 'Ahnold movie. I really hoped Arnold would play a negative character, like in the original. Just like in T2, the Terminator arrives to the present by walking into a bar, and kills a wooping.....ZERO humans. The only cool thing about T3 was the nukes at the end. That was......awesome? I would say terrifying.

[gregebowman]

The only problem with T3 was that James Cameron had nothing to do with the movie, as Gale Anne Hurd won the rights to the Terminator franchise after their divorce. Also, I don't know why they didn't get Eddie Furlong to play John Conner again. Worst movie, no. Disappointing compared to the other 2, yes. I'd rather have them go to the future and show John leading the revolution that let the humans win.