OT: Election 2004

[Joachim]

Originally posted by Combat Wombat:
I am not old enough to vote yet but I still have very strong political opinions.

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Renegade 13: "And yep, we're only there to stop him from having weapons of mass destruction....but wait a minute...who has the most weapons of mass destruction of all the countries in the world...hmm lets think about that."

Yes the US has the most WMDs but unlike Iraq we have used them only once(outside of tests) and we used them to do the right thing which was end WWII and save possibly Millions of lives that would have been lost in a fight using conventional weapons through the Pacific. Also we were defending ourselves while Sadam liked to use his WMDs on his own innocent citizens.

Ahh history is always forgotten when the rhetoric comes out. So Agent Orange, a chemical defoliant used in Vietnam was not a WMD?? What about its long Lasting impact on both Veterans and the Vietnamese still living there today? Lets not even consider WMDs like the Strategic Bombing campaign waged against Germany and Japan - Dresden or Tokyo anyone?
And if you can hide behind such farcical comments as 'we have only used them once' as a justification that is inhumane. The TWO atomic bombs dropped to test them on the Japanese have killed 100 000s of people - almost all civilians. There was no justification for their use, they did not end the war any earlier than it would have. As the only country to ever use atomic weapons surely the USA should not be allowed them still???
I have managed to avoid all previous debates like this, but sometimes things are said that just need commenting upon. So much for my five stars. At least we can debate these things.

As for the original point - Nader to win allthough he has a snowballs chance in a supernova. Otherwise Kerry, the USA cannot continue on this go alone foreign policy strategy, Kerry might just return to multilateral and UN actions.