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March 26th, 2004, 03:18 AM
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Re: Newtonian ships or not?.
Hard to say since there is practically no theoretical basis that I know of suggesting any way to develop FTL travel. It will be difficult to get to other systems though without something FTL, and FTL generally means something extra-(as in "beyond")-Newtonian.
Some Sci-Fi writers who avoid considerations of Newtonian movement are doing so because they want to simplify things and make them more recognizable and/or appealing to unsophisticated audiences, or to enable or disable certain kinds of situations. Other writers are themselves more interested in a certain imaginary existence than they are about making probable predictions.
I don't think Newtonian movement or conservation of momentum will ever "go away" though, as some bad sci fi flick animation seems to suggest.
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March 26th, 2004, 06:50 AM
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Re: Newtonian ships or not?.
Last I heard, there where tiny particles that travel faster than light. Neutrinos, I think. And, of course, electromagnetic radiation travels as fast a light. 
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March 26th, 2004, 01:25 PM
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Re: Newtonian ships or not?.
There are theoretical FTL particles called tachyons, but they've never been experimentally observed.
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March 27th, 2004, 02:29 AM
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Re: Newtonian ships or not?.
While I personally cannot concieve of any realistic theory of propulsion that will allow us to achieve FTL travel, (heck I personally can't concieve of the theory of relativity and quontum mechanics, and those have been demonstrated in experiments.  ) I hope that as a species we don't give up dreaming about it trying to discover ways to do it.
It would be as if we became so convinced that the earth was flat that we don't bother to send sailing ships beyond the horizon.
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March 27th, 2004, 02:36 AM
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Re: Newtonian ships or not?.
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When we start exploring space, and I believe we will never do this, but the ships used will be a standard design for many decades.
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March 26th, 2004, 05:52 PM
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Re: Newtonian ships or not?.
In order to 'maneuver like a plane' there would have to be an atmosphere for wings to work on. Or alternatively, you need to be moving at a signifigant fraction of the speed of light in order to get similar effects from the 'vacuum' of space (which is of course not an 'absolute' vacuum even between the galaxies). The maneuvering spaces would be seriously huge at those speeds, of course. Your turn radius would be larger than the solar system.
Did you know that they have estimated ships moving at around 70 percent of the speed of light between stars will heat up to several thousand degrees like an SR-71 due to the friction of interstellar gases? So even if they develop a means to accelerate near the speed of light they will have to develop a means of dealing with the heat buildup to actually travel that fast. In space all you've got for eliminating heat is radiation.
Now as for the 'Newtonian' movement question I think that what you are asking is will we ever have reactionless drives or will we always have to throw something out behind our ships to make them move... It's tricky to predict technology. If they ever figure out how gravity works they very well might find a way to manipulate it, and then we've got reactionless drives.
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March 27th, 2004, 01:37 AM
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Re: Newtonian ships or not?.
your post stired up a thought...what if the heat generated by interstellar dust was used to pre-heat the reaction mass?
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