OT: What Has The World Come To

[Captain Kwok]

Originally posted by Yef:
Yes, I hate that law about the seat belt.

I understand a law when it protects others from me, but a law that supposely protects me from myself its a violation of my freedom. I have never used seatbelts, and I will not use them. Period.

I sure hope in your protest against oppression, you never get ejected through the windshield.

[Atrocities]

Riding a bike, peddle, motor, whatever, without a helmet is just plain dangerous. I know from first hand accounts and many hours of helping people who have been injured. Some did not make it because they opted not to ware a helmet and their heads hit the fallen trees over the trails. To many poeple ride without helmates and they pay the price.

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
To many poeple ride without helmates and they pay the price.

But that's the point. They pay the price, but they don't pay the BILL.

I am all for freedom. By all means, live free or die to your hearts content. But if you are going to do the first, do the second one quickly and don't ask me to pay for your intensive care stay.

[tesco samoa]

And I feel manatory laws such as helments , seatbelts and any safety laws are required. People are careless. If fear of a 50 dollar fine forces people to put helmets on when bike riding I am all for it. It is a law that benifits everyone. Your choice is to ride or not ride. And if you ride without a helmet. It is your insurance companies choice to void the policy.

The only one I am against is photo radar. That to me is a cash grab. Especially when it is placed on a highway or a major street.

Why not set it up around schools when there is heavy children traffic flow or on neighbourhood streets where there are parks.

Then the photo radar would actually ding motorists where driving fast is dangerous. And have an officer there to hand out the ticket to the driver.

[PvK]

I always use seatbelts because I was educated about them. However I would be proud to defend Yef's right to not wear one, and not to be harassed and fined by the police if he doesn't.

I don't ride bikes, but I am tempted to get a bike and ride one outside a police station, just so I can scream bloody hell about it.

If we want to be unsafe, that's our own business. We can certainly do it in other ways besides the ones that busybody laws cover, too.

In my case, these laws are not making me any more safe.

They are however making me entertain thoughts about violent uprising against my tyrranical bastard safety-perverted government. Such laws are not appropriate in a supposedly free nation. Maybe people who want to live under such offensive laws should split from the United States and for a "Land of the Forced to be Safe."

PvK

[DavidG]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
p.s. i am not upset...

On the Car end... you can also look at how the car has helped design urban sprawl and all the problems associated with that.

P.P.S. I do not like guns either. To me they have no use in our society in the cities.

YIKES not you!. some other a-hole. I wasn't refering to you (but some other nameless person on these board who is gone now i think) and i'm sorry if that's the way it read.

[Phoenix-D]

I can agree on the seatbelts, but again not on leaving your kids in the car. I mean most people would be horrified if you locked someone in an oven and cooked them to death with it....but when you do it accidently in a mobile greenhouse they shrug it off?

The law does need to be sensible, obviously. Locking them in at night isn't a threat for example..most of the time, but those cases would be covered under other things.