OT: What Has The World Come To

[DavidG]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
p.s. i am not upset...

On the Car end... you can also look at how the car has helped design urban sprawl and all the problems associated with that.

P.P.S. I do not like guns either. To me they have no use in our society in the cities.

YIKES not you!. some other a-hole. I wasn't refering to you (but some other nameless person on these board who is gone now i think) and i'm sorry if that's the way it read.

[Phoenix-D]

I can agree on the seatbelts, but again not on leaving your kids in the car. I mean most people would be horrified if you locked someone in an oven and cooked them to death with it....but when you do it accidently in a mobile greenhouse they shrug it off?

The law does need to be sensible, obviously. Locking them in at night isn't a threat for example..most of the time, but those cases would be covered under other things.

[DavidG]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
The only one I am against is photo radar. That to me is a cash grab. Especially when it is placed on a highway or a major street.

Why not set it up around schools when there is heavy children traffic flow or on neighbourhood streets where there are parks.

Then the photo radar would actually ding motorists where driving fast is dangerous. And have an officer there to hand out the ticket to the driver.

Why do you feel this is a problem? Set it up in both areas I'd say. So what if it is a cash grab. Better speeding motorists pay for our dept than me with rising taxes. People in Ontario drive too fast. I'd be willing be most serious accidents are caused in some part by excessive speed. Photo radar does slow people down. At least everyone I've talked to about it admits the watch their speed more.

[EvilGenius4ABetterTomorro]

Ever thought about "setting up" photo radar?
Here's my evil plan: Cover your real license plates with fake 666 plates. Get a devil mask and drive fast past the radar site while giving the devil finger salute. News is so slow here, they'll probably probably do a story on the mystery devil speeder.
Some of these laws that are meant to protect us go way too far. The USA is really missing out on some good economy cars from overseas just because of minor things like the placing of turn signals and tail lights. Portland use to have some city buses from Hungary, but they had too much power. They added so many governors to them that it made them break down way too many times. Oh my god, too much horsepower for hilly terrain!

[Roanon]

Originally posted by DavidG:
I'd be willing be most serious accidents are caused in some part by excessive speed.

Of course, a speed of zero guarantees no accidents at all . A fact is, though, that least of all accidents happen on motorways, and of those few the most happen on construction sites, where a speed limit makes sense (and is rarely checked, like near schools and on other sites where they make sense - and are followed most of the time even if not radar-checked).
Just pure speed on a suitable highway is not dangerous in itself. In fact, a general speed limit without reason slightly increases accidents, because it lessens your concentration when you are forced to drive way below your skill limit, and causes so called "micro-sleeps" when even slightly tired or fatigued, which then can cause accidents. In these situations driving faster, at a comfortable speed, is in fact safer, because it enhances attention and reactions.
"Too fast" is very much depending on the situation, there are situations when even 40 mph is way too fast. But the US standard 55 mph on highways with little or no traffic are just ridiculous and unmatched, no other country with general speed limits has such a low limit.

[Narrew]

Wardad your a funny guy, first the dog in a car at night with those 2 old crones then that artical, funny stuff. Could you post the link to that article? Thanks

[ April 05, 2004, 18:24: Message edited by: Narrew ]

[Yef]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Seat belts and helmets don't just save lives, they lessen injuries. People don't always die from their injuries. Sometimes they are seriously injured and incapacitated. The cost of their health care falls, at best, to everyone else in their health plan, and at worst to the all of us through government assistance.

I see your point.
It could be a big sum at national level.
Still, I can't wear those dam things. So I'll keep doing what I've been doing, but I'll refrein from making an issue of it or giving it free advertisement.
You have convinced me that its in my best interest that other people wear the seatbelts.