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April 17th, 2004, 07:12 PM
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Re: two MAJOR questions for simul-games...
1) Your ships that have that design strategy will break from formations. Only ships and fighters can ever be in formations. Other things are in the list for no reason I know, other than it might have been possible to code them to be able to go into formation.
2) Sentry means the ships will not be selected with the "select next ship" button. They will desentry when any enemy object is present in the same system, whether it is ship, unit, planet, whatever.
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April 17th, 2004, 07:20 PM
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Re: two MAJOR questions for simul-games...
I can only answer question 2, since there is no love lost between the strategical battles and myself. (And believe me, you do not want to emulate my own "strategies" when such battles occur. *Smirks*)
Sentry means that the ship will not move and will be considered "inactive" as long as no enemy enters in the system. Afterwards, the ship will carry out its orders, if it has any order besides sentry. The main use for this command would be to give orders for your ships when faced with an invasion, but it may be quite unreliable as you won't know *which* ships entered the system, how many and so on. (For example, you could order a Stellar Destroyer to blow up a star once an enemy enters the system, but it would occur if even a single scout enter the system, which isn't quite what you want)
Sentry can also be used to remove some ships from the "go to next ship" command, although fleets would work in this case as well. Lastly, all ships in a sector engage a battle with any enemy ship entering this sector, unless one of the sides has all its ships protected by cloaking. (Assuming the other side doesn't have a sensor able to see through the cloak) So you do not need the Sentry command to achieve this effect.
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April 17th, 2004, 07:45 PM
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Re: two MAJOR questions for simul-games...
Turin Turambar - what a great character to use as your code name. Married his sister and killed his best friend.
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April 17th, 2004, 08:44 PM
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Re: two MAJOR questions for simul-games...
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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
1) Your ships that have that design strategy will break from formations. Only ships and fighters can ever be in formations. Other things are in the list for no reason I know, other than it might have been possible to code them to be able to go into formation.
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My memory/understanding disagrees with this. I think actually the fleet's strategy is consulted, and the indicated vehicle types will use their own strategies and break formation, while the types told not to break formation in the fleet strategy, will use the fleet's strategy and stay in formation. So, you cannot have, say, combat ship design A break formation but combat ship design B stay in formation, unless you place them in multiple fleets with different fleet strategies.
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April 17th, 2004, 08:46 PM
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Re: two MAJOR questions for simul-games...
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Originally posted by TurinTurambar:
... I guess what I'm really trying to ask here is, "How do I get a fleet of Missile Cruisers to move to a planet and break formation?" (to avoid sweeping the trailing edge of a formation into weapons range and allow the ships to use their individual strategy types)
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Simply set the fleet's strategy to one that tells ships to break formation.
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April 17th, 2004, 08:50 PM
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Re: two MAJOR questions for simul-games...
Hmm... yeah, it is the fleet strategy that tells them whether to break formation or not. Really, it is a good idea to have all ship strategies set to break formation. Staying in formation is a really bad idea in 99.9% of situations.
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April 17th, 2004, 10:53 PM
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Re: two MAJOR questions for simul-games...
Generally, yeah. Exceptions can be if you really want some ships to escort a specific ship (but then that ship needs a weapon and a combat strategy, or it will break formation anyway  ), and getting a few specific ships to fight as a group in a certain formation, which I've used successfully when micro-managing in a competetive game, but ya, that would be the 0.1% ...
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