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[Atrocities]

What if there is no universe? What if it is just our minds way of rationalizing the emptiness of our own souls?

I don't think we will ever find evidence of humanoid life on Mars or any other planet for that matter. When you figure out how unique events had to be in order for the universe to spawn us, then you begin to understand how truly rare we are. We are so rare that the chances for having another humanoid race, or any race remotely similar to us is about 1 followed by enough zeros to circle the known universe into infinity. That’s a very large number, so large that we currently do not have a definition or name for it.

I hate how shows like ST, SW, B5, and other make the galaxy out to be this thriving utopia of life when in fact and more likely than not, we are the only sentient being, that is similar to us, in the galaxy.

Think of it this way, you have a 7 number lotto with a number range from 1 to 99, and everyone in the world has submitted a ticket with their 7 numbers. The chances for there being more than one wining number are about 1 in 5 billion. That my friends could also be the odds of a planet like earth existing else where in our galaxy.

Mars lost, or perhaps never had a strong electro magnetic field and any vegetation or life would have been swept away by the harsh solar winds long ago. If not for our own electro magnetic shield we too would be a dead world.

No when you think about how rare our planet is, and how unique we are to it, then the logic of our exsistance comes into focus, we are an oddity, an enigma of the universe. We are perhaps the only sentient race in our galaxy and I believe this firmly.

I sincerely doubt that we will ever build a space fleet and explore the stars because I fear that we will have destroyed ourselves long before we could have invented the technology to do so.

We are so arrogant to think that there is life out there because we can imagine it. It can also be said that we are arrogant to believe that there is no life out there, but right now, there is NO proof either way. There is only speculation and hope. And until one of them contact us, or land on the white house lawn, I am resigned to the belief that we are alone.

[ May 19, 2004, 14:10: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Grauzone]

If Atrocities has right, we have a heavy burden on our shoulders. We have to spread life in the whole UNIVERSE. A big duty...

Before we do so we schold stop to throw bombs on our neighbours and pollute our unique biosphere, and concentrate our power on more important areas of human possibilities...

[Atrocities]

LOL - A true 4 x player if I ever heard of one.

[Suicide Junkie]

Who here thinks that indisputable evidence of life (whether microbial or bigger, past or present) will be found on Mars? Show of hands please.

Indisputable, never.
Evidence good enough for 99% of the people here, probably.

There are bound to be more conspiracy theorists than you can shake a stick at...

[Raging Deadstar]

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
There are bound to be more conspiracy theorists than you can shake a stick at...

The funniest Conspiracy Theory is the one about my countries Royal Family being Alien Lizards from outer space Lol! Yeah, i can see it now, A huge humanoid green lizard in white gloves and a big pink hat!!

[dogscoff]

are about 1 in 5 billion. That my friends could also be the odds of a planet like earth existing else where in our galaxy.

Atrocities, Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mindbogglingly big it is. I mean you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space. *


From some website I just googled:

Some 100 billion galaxies are visible to modern telescopes and the total number in the universe is believed to exceed this number,

So even if your just-made-up numbers are accurate, and the chances of a second earth like planet in a galaxy is 5 billion, that means there are at least (1oob/5b) = 20 earth-like planets in the universe. And that's the chance of there being a second earth-like in a galaxy- presumably the chances of their being a first one would be even higher. WIth some 3 billion stars in our galaxy alone, you really can't ignore Drake's equation.

If Atrocities has right, we have a heavy burden on our shoulders. We have to spread life in the whole UNIVERSE. A big duty...

Hey baby, want to help me populate the universe? You know I have a VERY big duty...


*thanks again to Douglas Adams.

[Wardad]

Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson are going camping. They pitch their tent under the stars and go to sleep. Sometime in the middle of the night Holmes wakes Watson up:

“Watson, look up at the stars, and tell me what you deduce.”

Watson says, “I see millions of stars and even if a few of those have planets, it’s quite likely there are some planets like Earth, and if there are a few planets like Earth out there, there might also be life.”

Holmes replies: “Watson, you idiot, somebody stole our tent!”