Completely OT : Cannes, Mickael Moore and the Iraq War

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by LonghornXtreme:
Bear in mind that Moore never mentioned that it was solely Richard Clarke and the FBI that let the Saudi's flee the country... Bush's hands had nothing to do with it. You should go read the 911commission.org website.

To be fair to Moore this fact didn't come to light until just a few weeks ago, after the movie was completed.

Of course, since Moore did interview Clarke extensively for the production of the film, you might have thought it would have been one of the little details that would have come up in conversation.

[Will]

Originally posted by LonghornXtreme:
The grieving woman had a huge problem with elementary reading comprehension skills reading a letter she has most likely read to herself numerous times before.

You try losing a child, then go through and read the Last letter they wrote to you... She kept stopping while reading the letter because of the emotional loss of a dead child, not because of poor reading skills. I really do hope that the at the end of that paragraph was meant for the entire paragraph, lest you seem as ignorant as those Moore interviews (your words).

[dmm]

A quick comment:
Several people have said that Moore detractors should go see the film so they can "get the facts." LOL! Why in the world would anyone go to see Moore's film unless they wanted to make a contribution to the causes that Moore believes in? You would indeed have a good point, if Moore were offering free screenings. You would also have a good point, if there were a conservative Bush supporter with a 9/11 "documentary" purporting to tell the truth. Then we could all go see both propaganda films (let's call a spade a spade). But to tell others that they are close-minded because they don't want to give money and respectability to the enemy! Since you are so open-minded, I suggest that everyone who goes to see Moore's political campaign ad should, in the interest of fairness, also give $5 to the Bush re-election fund, so that Bush can make his own propaganda film.

[psimancer]

for the most part i agree with dmm

however on a non intellectual level

the actions and attitudes of micheal moore are personally offensive to me why i dont know he just ticks me off sorta like barbara steisand i love her early movies but by god seeing her in any other context just causes a massive urge to smack some sense into the woman

i have come to the conclusion that
as my father had to do with me as a immature youth
most of the "activist" stars of hollywood need some common sense pounded into their backsides
i suspect most of them of being raised in a environment devoid of corporeal punishment
which means their personal developement is approximatly 30 years behind (once they hit 60 they might finally gain some common sense but i wont make book on it)

[dmm]

I'd also like to say, without any sarcasm, that I love how this community discusses visceral issues without losing its collective cool. Discussion gets heated, but rarely explodes. A nice change from normality, especially web normality. (You can bet Michael Moore wouldn't Last long here. )

[Unknown_Enemy]

Originally posted by psimancer:
i suspect most of them of being raised in a environment devoid of corporeal punishment
which means their personal developement is approximatly 30 years behind (once they hit 60 they might finally gain some common sense but i wont make book on it)

Uhhh !
Do you mean a child will become a retard if his parents don't use corporeal punishment ?
I hope I did miss some humour here. In my book, I have corporeal punishment as an exception, and a bad one.

[Mephisto]

Originally posted by psimancer:
i suspect most of them of being raised in a environment devoid of corporeal punishment
which means their personal developement is approximatly 30 years behind (once they hit 60 they might finally gain some common sense but i wont make book on it)

Isn't there a ironic smiley missing? If not I would suggest you better not raise children in Germany. Corporeal punishment of humans of any age (0-99 years) is a crime, even for parents, and you WILL get convicted for it (I have first hand knowledge as a co-Judge during my court stage).