OT: The Passion of the Christ movie

[AMF]

RE:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
If this were true, then why in the hell aren't all the protesters in Jail? Why have they not been declared enemies of the state and tossed away?

Simply, the law does not work like that. The Patriot Act allows for violations of other rights, but it does not give them the right to just "throw" any one for any thing into jail without due-process.

And what does any of this have to do with the current discussion?

Because you said ""Follow me or I will have crows peck out your eyes!"... Sounds like a dictator to me. I just don't know."

And so I was drawing the obvious parrellel between then and now in terms of dictators.

And, in reference to:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Simply, the law does not work like that. The Patriot Act allows for violations of other rights, but it does not give them the right to just "throw" any one for any thing into jail without due-process.

Well, as I understand it, the Patriot act gives the government the right to "throw just anyone in jail" so long as they are declared to be "terrorists" - and does revoke their right to due process, representation, outside notification, etc all based on the good faith of the government. And they say they don;t torture people too...the point being that no one is watching the watchmen, the people now rely upon the good faith of the government to govern itself and its behaviour unless I've got it wrong...and, in terms of this discussion, heck, not sure that it does relate, but someone brought up dictators...although if you ask me, any decent christian nowadays should be considering Bush and Ashcroft to be the latest incarnations of the anti-christ...

[Atrocities]

I believe that you are mistaken regarding the Patriot Act.

All I wanted to know is what any of your statement had to do with the current dicussion. Now I know. Thanks.

And It was Clinton / Gore who were the true anti christs.

[ May 23, 2004, 23:35: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Azselendor]

Atrocities, take a visit to an immigration court or even the jail if you can get a tour of one.

I took an offer once to view a homeland security immigration jail and I was stunned by the cruel mistreatment of not just immigrants, but to naturalized citizens and war veterans who were being held in jail without access to a lawyer or a fair trial or even proper sanitation.

[Atrocities]

I don't know what to say to your post. I honestly pray that no person is being wrongfully held, and or mistreated.

If they are, then hell yes we need a way to litigate their freedom.

Sometimes the idology of better safe than sorry has a human cost that is more often than not over looked.

I wish them all well.

[Fyron]

Bush is just following in the footsteps of people like FDR...

[Yef]

Originally posted by aiken:
In spite of 2000 years of Christianity, the same people who crucified him still rule our world. He would be in a great sorrow if he known that. [/QB]

And what is that suppossed to mean?

There were two people involved in Mr J cruxificion, the Romans and the Jews, and the Romans are no more, so it obviously means that the Jews rule the world!
Very nice. That's why I'll never see that awful movie. People comes out of the theater with an slightly diferent view of the world.
Brainwashing at its best. (or worst)

[Aiken]

Originally posted by Yef:

quote:

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Originally posted by aiken:
In spite of 2000 years of Christianity, the same people who crucified him still rule our world. He would be in a great sorrow if he known that.

And what is that suppossed to mean?

There were two people involved in Mr J cruxificion, the Romans and the Jews, and the Romans are no more, so it obviously means that the Jews rule the world!
Very nice. That's why I'll never see that awful movie. People comes out of the theater with an slightly diferent view of the world.
Brainwashing at its best. (or worst) [/QB]

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It's supposed to mean that mankind the same horde of barbarians as it was 2k years ago, inspite of the civilization, technical progress and such.

And it was your deduction about Jews, not mine - everybody see what he wants to see. I can't see anything wrong about jews in this film, sorry.

And I wonder how anybody can judge the film/picture/book without seing/reading it