Space Empires 101 - Galactic Council

[trooper]

Alarikf,

You talk too much. Do what you think is best before leaving the game.

After all, it's just a game, and it's time for an alliance to win.

Too bad if this victory is helped by player's abandonments.

Trooper

[ July 15, 2004, 07:52: Message edited by: trooper ]

[AMF]

Originally posted by trooper:
Alarikf,

You talk too much.

That's been said before. You should see me when I get REALLY worked up about something.

I just hate to see a game 'fouled' or bad feelings engendered by my leaving, when I might've avoided this by leaving in a "better" manner. Not sure if that actually would have been possible, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Originally posted by trooper:
Alarikf,
Do what you think is best before leaving the game.

After all, it's just a game, and it's time for an alliance to win.

Yes, and that, ironically, makes it all the more important that I make it perfectly clear that there was
1) no harm no foul - either intended or taken - by anyone, hopefully
2) I meant no disruption by my leaving - in or out of game
3) I REALLY thought that it made perfect sense to do what I did (ie: cede RCC to Thermolia) given what had gone on in the game earlier and the strategic situation. Again, my misperception.

Originally posted by trooper:
Too bad if this victory is helped by player's abandonments.

Well, my take is not that it is an "abandonment" but a political development. Politics is affected by "events" in reality - it's like the sudden collapse of the USSR or the revolution in France: no one could have predicted it, but it happened and it's a fact of life. I find it fascinating to examine how states respond to "big changes" like that - "something big happens that you aren't ready for, how do you deal with it?" And SEIV, being, partly, a strategic "simulation," is one way of observing such reactions.

Nevermind. I'm "talking too much" again.

Alarik

[Joachim]

Originally posted by alarikf:
Furthermore, we do not agree that the Cybers, and Citizen collective and others "...saved your butt and the Themolians butt from the Dei-O you both started." Indeed, we didn't start the war, the Dei-O and those other fellas did. True, we didn;t do so well, and thermolia got hurt bad, but that does not seem to logically justify the fate of the RCC citizens being left up to others.

Well, as the long dead ghost of the Dei, I want to clarify a couple of things.
The Dei started the war with the RCC, the Termolians attacked the Dei and sent a message not dis-similar to the one mentioned, thats why we ceased attacks on the RCC and went all out on the Therms.
The Dei after exhausting diplomatic options were in no postion to survive - evil talisman (but thats a different whinge ). The only people that had been reasonable to the Dei during the negotiations were, paradoxically, the RCC. That is why we surrendered to them.

[trooper]

Originally posted by Joachim:

The only people that had been reasonable to the Dei during the negotiations were, paradoxically, the RCC. That is why we surrendered to them.

I confirm. When Dei asked for a peace treaty, I told him to f... off. But that was pure military roleplaying, of course .

As when I declared war to Electrum, pretending I couldn't stand queers in pyjama...

[AMF]

[quote]Originally posted by Joachim:

...The only people that had been reasonable to the Dei during the negotiations were, paradoxically, the RCC. That is why we surrendered to them.

And now I've gone and abandoned your empire! Boy, you must love me now!

[Thermodyne]

OOC: Well, while we are clarifying things, let me add that Thermolias attack on the D-O was in response to their attack on my ally. Some type of war was bound to happen, but this is what forced the issue. Also let me add that there seems to be a lot of confusion between in character and out of character Messages. All in game Messages are IC unless marked otherwise. Forum Posts can be either, and as such should be tagged. Same would hold true of email. Now, some would seem to have found the default text of Thermolian in game Messages offensive. This was the intent when the file was created. There have been some Messages in the game where I forgot to replace this text and there have also been some where I intentionally left it in place. I have apologized to the person who got one accidentally and I would ask the rest of you to remember that they are IC Messages. The Thermolians have been around longer than SE4 and they are a race lead by a revivified dead guy, polite conversation is not something they are known for. They are good honorable allies, but not the kind of people you would invite to dinner at your moms house. The actual intent of the message texts was to cause anger when the Thermolians were used as an AI. That seems to be a success . None of the Messages were sent as or intended to be taken OOC.

[AMF]

OOC: led by a "revivified dead guy"? Now that is nasty.