AI Surrender

[jc173]

In a thread a bit back about diplomacy, I asked about subjugation treaties and someone mentioned that you need about 600% of the AI's score to get them to submit to a subjugation treaty and 800% to have them surrender. I think he said the values are stored in the politics.txt files for each race so you can probably take a look to find the exact values.

[raynor]

For most races it is 1000% or 10x their score. For example, take a look at the Abiddon file in pictures\races\Abbidon\Abbidon_AI_Politics.txt

Score Percent To Accept Demand your surrender := 1000

A couple of the races such as the Amon-Krie have a line that looks like this:

Score Percent To Accept Demand your surrender := 5000

So, they require 50!! times their score before they will surrender.

If you asked the Amon-Krie to surrender, even one ship outside that system *might* have been enough to give him a score so that you didn't beat his by fifty times.

[Arralen]

Maybe these are "typos" ?? Having 5x/10x the score should be sufficient, shouldn't it??

A.

[raynor]

Nahh. I don't think it is a typo. I think it just makes them like the Klingons who would rather die than surrender.

[Arralen]

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Originally posted by raynor:
Nahh. I don't think it is a typo. I think it just makes them like the Klingons who would rather die than surrender.

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The "Default_AI_politics.txt" gives '1000', and the agressive/defensive/neutral AIs too ... all Klingons seemingly .. .

IMHO that makes this option mostly useless ..

A.

[Master Belisarius]

>IMHO that makes this option mostly useless ..

If you don't like it, you can change the value.

[Drake]

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Originally posted by Arralen:
Maybe these are "typos" ?? Having 5x/10x the score should be sufficient, shouldn't it??

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If you set it to 50x score, you avoid the situation where you can get them to surrender very early by blockading their HW in the first few turns.