Contraversial idea for a better se5

narf poit chez BOOM · #1 July 1st, 2004, 07:03 PM

Ah, kinda off topic, but I have never really understood why people seem to think nethack is the best roguelike.

On the other hand, I never survived very long either.

Ragnarok-X · #2 July 1st, 2004, 07:35 PM

i once tried out nethack and didnt like it. I think it is a wonderful game, but it takes hours to learn it. Next time i have holidays i will try to learn having fun with it.
Anyways:

1. where can i find the nethack community ?
2. Great idea dogscoff, but you are right, this will most propably never happen

Maybe SE4 will go open source in 10 years or something, but i doubt it..

rdouglass · #3 July 1st, 2004, 08:11 PM

Great idea but using SEIII (IMO) won't work. It's really *not* close enough to SEIV to implement anything more than custom shipsets (again IMO).

dogscoff · #4 July 1st, 2004, 10:06 PM

rags: Try http://Groups.google.com/Groups?sour...uelike.nethack

or point your favourite usenet client at rec.games.roguelike.nethack

Steep learning curve, but that's what the spoilers are for.

Gryphin · #5 July 2nd, 2004, 03:44 AM

I'm not sure what aspect folks enjoy of a game. I tend to look for:
A good 4X game
Not too much time spent on economics. I thought Civ II was perfect and I like the system in Empire Deluxe.
The ability to Mod the AI, graphics, and sound
If EDEE is what I hope, I'll never need another game.

If SE III could open up the AI to programing that would be very very tempting.

narf poit chez BOOM · #6 July 2nd, 2004, 06:03 AM

What's this EDEE?

Paul1980au · #7 July 2nd, 2004, 09:52 AM

Dogs the other rogue like game that is superior to nethack in my opinion is the angband and zangband and variants of that - they are open source and more variants and ideas and the games themselves are far more detailed then nethack - it actually branced off from nethack but has a much bigger development community in progress and has a higher player amount

In this genre Space 4X open source we have freeorion.org ? which is in early stages but seems to be the only viable alternative in terms of similarness - if i was MM i would consider opening up SE2 to open source and then SE3 once SE5 was out - yes with all the programmers it could be very viable and it probably wouldnt distract to many players from SE5 as it would be superior but it could be something to work with - id like to hear from MM (aaron) on this. Commercially i guess he would be a bit cautious but there is always a place for superior commercial products similar to the open source alternative - the only thing would be new ideas in a open source he would have to be careful to generate his own source code due to GPL conditions.