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July 2nd, 2004, 09:52 AM
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Re: Contraversial idea for a better se5
Dogs the other rogue like game that is superior to nethack in my opinion is the angband and zangband and variants of that - they are open source and more variants and ideas and the games themselves are far more detailed then nethack - it actually branced off from nethack but has a much bigger development community in progress and has a higher player amount
In this genre Space 4X open source we have freeorion.org ? which is in early stages but seems to be the only viable alternative in terms of similarness - if i was MM i would consider opening up SE2 to open source and then SE3 once SE5 was out - yes with all the programmers it could be very viable and it probably wouldnt distract to many players from SE5 as it would be superior but it could be something to work with - id like to hear from MM (aaron) on this. Commercially i guess he would be a bit cautious but there is always a place for superior commercial products similar to the open source alternative - the only thing would be new ideas in a open source he would have to be careful to generate his own source code due to GPL conditions.
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July 2nd, 2004, 10:04 AM
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Re: Contraversial idea for a better se5
You do not have to use the GPL to release code in open source... that is just one possible license. Aaron could create his own open source license if he wanted to, just for one specific purpose.
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July 2nd, 2004, 02:54 PM
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Re: Contraversial idea for a better se5
same, whats this EDEE ?
secondly, where can i find those angband and zangbank games ? ty
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July 2nd, 2004, 06:43 PM
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Re: Contraversial idea for a better se5
you can play angband multiplayer and Online.
www.mangband.com
of course, nethack is the superior game
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July 3rd, 2004, 02:35 AM
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Re: Contraversial idea for a better se5
After hitting the Illwinter web page and seeing they recommended Dungeon Crawl, I checked it out and got semi-hooked. I went back to try Nethack again (which I've played on and off for years), I thought I rather preferred Dungeon Crawl. They're similar, but different. Worth a look for a change of pace. I don't expect to go back to nethack much though, myself. Though it definitely has many things Dungeon Crawl doesn't (and to a lesser extent vice versa, but DC does several basic things "better", to my tastes).
As for the actual thread topic, it's a reasonable idea. Aaron could even just release parts of the source code - not enough to recreate the game, but some useful game mechanics sections that players might be interested in. Maybe. Just a thought.
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July 3rd, 2004, 10:14 AM
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Re: Contraversial idea for a better se5
Or the SE4 forum programmers could get together and attempt to build a game from scratch - open source it - how long would it take with all the modding talent to create a new game from scartch but similar to SE4 with new ideas though ?
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July 3rd, 2004, 10:23 AM
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Re: Contraversial idea for a better se5
There are many people trying that already. With the new stars project and others. However the Dominations and Free-Orion forums are off line. I guess they went bust or something.
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