OT - Spiderman: movie Version or comic book Version?

[bearclaw]

For those who saw the movie, and those who know Spiderman comics, the next villian is obvious. I won't say anymore on that for spoiler issuse.

I'm hoping to see Veneom in a future Spiderman movie, but I'm not sure how they'd pull that genisis off... Venom has to be my favorite Comic Villan.

Can always hope.

[gregebowman]

As far as crossovers go, I'd love to see Spiderman, Daredevil and the Punisher team up. There were a couple of comics like that, and it would be neat to see on film. Thomas Payne has already stated he would love to be in a Spiderman movie, but we all know that Ben Affleck has given up his tights. I'm sure they can find somebody else to fill the role, like they did with Batman. For those that don't know it, the Punisher origin happened in Spiderman (#127, i think). I don't see it happening, but it would be nice.

[PvK]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
PvK, I think the reason why some of those movies stink is that the direct/producer/executive productor relied too much on special effects. ...

I agree that's one of the essential shortcomings of films like the recent SW flicks. Two others are the lack of convincing terror during combat (reducing the events to unemotional CGI contests), and the bad physics I mentioned before (making the motions look unconvincing and stupid, to people who have seen real objects move, or the pacing of real fighting and panic situations).

Episode IV showed rebels who were afraid of the stormtroopers bLasting them, and with good reason. Episodes I-II had kids who were too young to act, doing impossible physics-defying and common-sense-insulting stunts and risking their lives without a second thought or even seeming concerned at all, and laying waste to bunches of unemotional opponents as a sort of "oh yeah, they died" side-effect.

Reaction times (in Episode IV) were also NOT fake-o instant reactions where the only pause between gymnastic combat is for unbelievable blase one-liners ("I'm so cool, I am not at all concerned by your CGI powers. Watch my CGI be scripted to (yawn) defeat you. Now, watch my CGI not need to take any time to catch its breath, get its bearings, tell friend from foe, catch its balance, or anything that weak non-CGI beings need to do."). Episode IV showed sweating terrified rebels getting bLasted, and used actual WW2 dogfight films to choreograph the maneuvers of fighters in combat. Episodes I-II had nonsense like jumping thousands of feet onto speeding moving vehicles, and catching light sabres from similar distances, without breaking any bones or failing to grab hold of things, and plenty of generally way-too-fast and way-too-maneuverable and way-too-easy maneuvers by the way-too-unconcerned pilots.

Ok, pardon the side-topic rant. Ahem.

PvK

[ July 07, 2004, 19:02: Message edited by: PvK ]

[narf poit chez BOOM]

It seems in a lot of story's today that the characters are unaffected by violent death. 'Oh, gee, I was an ordinary office worker and now I'm killing people. Neat.'

Did I just poke a huge hole in the matrix?

[Caduceus]

Originally posted by dogscoff:

i wonder if they 'borrowed' this idea from the late, great Spiderman 2099 series.

/me used to love the 2099 titles...

Gotta love Spider Man 2099, John Romita Jr at his best... And the main character? Miguel O'Hara!

Wildcard

[Kamog]

Episodes I-II had kids who were too young to act, doing impossible physics-defying and common-sense-insulting stunts and risking their lives without a second thought or even seeming concerned at all, and laying waste to bunches of unemotional opponents as a sort of "oh yeah, they died" side-effect.

Yeah, I thought that Quigon, Obi-Wan and Anakin were way too calm in situations of great danger... I just assumed that all those years of strict Jedi training lets you eliminate fear or something.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by wildcard06:

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Originally posted by dogscoff:

i wonder if they 'borrowed' this idea from the late, great Spiderman 2099 series.

/me used to love the 2099 titles...

Gotta love Spider Man 2099, John Romita Jr at his best... And the main character? Miguel O'Hara!

Wildcard

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Missed the pop culture reference again...