Carribean mod

[Goatfoam]

JLS:

I'm not too keen on the requirements of mainsails et al, since I was considering:

code:

---

Name                  := Captain

Description           := Every ship needs a Captain; he is the one who issues orders and runs the day-to-day operations of ship life. Comes complete with Cabin.

Pic Num               := 1

Tonnage Space Taken   := 5

Tonnage Structure     := 5

Cost Minerals         := 50

Cost Organics         := 100

Cost Radioactives     := 0

Vehicle Type          := Ship

Supply Amount Used    := 5

Restrictions          := None

General Group         := Vehicle Control

Family                := 1

Roman Numeral         := 0

Custom Group          := 0

Number of Tech Req    := 1

Tech Area Req 1       := Ship Construction

Tech Level Req 1      := 1

Number of Abilities   := 2

Ability 1 Type        := Ship Bridge

Ability 1 Descr       := Acts as a ship's Bridge.

Ability 1 Val 1       := 0

Ability 1 Val 2       := 0

Ability 2 Type        := Boarding Defense

Ability 2 Descr       := The Captain is usually the fiercest defender in a boarding attack. (+5 Def)

Ability 2 Val 1       := 5

Ability 2 Val 2       := 0

Weapon Type           := None



Name                  := Food Storage

Description           := Without barrels of salted meat and precious fruit to combat scurvy, no ship would make it more than a few days without a decrease in effectiveness.

Pic Num               := 2

Tonnage Space Taken   := 10

Tonnage Structure     := 10

Cost Minerals         := 200

Cost Organics         := 400

Cost Radioactives     := 0

Vehicle Type          := Ship

Supply Amount Used    := 0

Restrictions          := None

General Group         := Vehicle Control

Family                := 2

Roman Numeral         := 0

Custom Group          := 0

Number of Tech Req    := 1

Tech Area Req 1       := Ship Construction

Tech Level Req 1      := 1

Number of Abilities   := 2

Ability 1 Type        := Ship Life Support

Ability 1 Descr       := Acts as Life Support.

Ability 1 Val 1       := 0

Ability 1 Val 2       := 0

Ability 2 Type        := Supply Storage

Ability 2 Descr       := Provides storage for 2000 units of supply.

Ability 2 Val 1       := 2000

Ability 2 Val 2       := 0

Weapon Type           := None



Name                  := Ship Crew

Description           := No ship can operate without a crew - and their living quarters.

Pic Num               := 3

Tonnage Space Taken   := 20

Tonnage Structure     := 20

Cost Minerals         := 300

Cost Organics         := 500

Cost Radioactives     := 0

Vehicle Type          := Ship

Supply Amount Used    := 100

Restrictions          := None

General Group         := Vehicle Control

Family                := 3

Roman Numeral         := 0

Custom Group          := 0

Number of Tech Req    := 1

Tech Area Req 1       := Ship Construction

Tech Level Req 1      := 1

Number of Abilities   := 2

Ability 1 Type        := Ship Crew Quarters

Ability 1 Descr       := Acts as Crew Quarters.

Ability 1 Val 1       := 0

Ability 1 Val 2       := 0

Ability 2 Type        := Boarding Defense

Ability 2 Descr       := During boarding actions, the crew are usually the first to defend the ship. (+25 Def)

Ability 2 Val 1       := 25

Ability 2 Val 2       := 0

Weapon Type           := None

---

You could possibly practically force players to have a mainsail on each ship by giving it the best ability, with the jib a close second, and limiting the number per ship to one.

So, you could have a mainsail that gave you 3 standard movement, a jib that gave you 2, and then the extra sails would add 1. Or if that made ships a little too fast, have the extra sails add other bonuses, like combat movement.

If we go this way, we can limit the number of 'engines' on each ship in the vehiclesize.txt to the numbers you suggested (so, a sloop would have max engines := 2 (possibly 3)), but also give each ship a Movement Bonus ability (perhaps even give some inherent combat movement bonus abilities) with smaller ships having a positive and larger ships having a negative, to account for the water displacement - which you could offset again with different copper lining components for each ship class.

Edit: Or another way to do this would be to give smaller ships lower numbers for Engines Per Move.

[ July 07, 2004, 07:41: Message edited by: Goatfoam ]

[JLS]

Whatever floats your boat

Only suggestions, I will keep them coming from time to time.

[Goatfoam]

What do you think? Do you think it would work that way? I've been cracking on with the component file this morning, once the first draft is done I'll email it your way, see what you think.

[Atrocities]

Its funny, a while back, like three years ago I suggested something simular. I even went so far as to draw up detailed concept for how one could turn SEIV into a world conquest game. I sent it to MM but have never heard anything about it.

[JLS]

Originally posted by Goatfoam:
What do you think? Do you think it would work that way? I've been cracking on with the component file this morning, once the first draft is done I'll email it your way, see what you think.

Thanks, I would like to see your work.


I may not be able to view it until this evening.

My E-Mail is in on the post tabs.

[spoon]

Originally posted by Goatfoam:
But - could you have two different types of repair? I'm thinking "Ship's surgeon" for crew types, and "Jury Riggers" for simple ship components. Possible? Doesn't look like it, but maybe someone knows a way.

What if you gave all of the "shipyard repair only" components the Emergency Propulsion ability? Or is the only-reparable-at-spaceyards setting hard-coded for actual specific components rather than specific abilities?

[JLS]

Originally posted by Goatfoam:
Okay, so it's mostly because I want to make a pirates mod. As in 15th Century "Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum", and "Avast, ye filthy land-lubbers!" pirates.

I am sorry, I did not realize you were Moding the 1400s Caribbean. My feeble mind was in the 18 Century, and here I am suggesting Ships, Weapons and Sail Configurations - that were not even invented for Hundreds of years later

This explains why you were referring to row boats assaulting Spanish Caravels, Nao’s and Carracks

I am somewhat familiar with the organized Hanseatic Leagues endeavors in that time frame were a single mast Cogs could rule; However, I am unsure about the time frame of the west Indies Buccaneer, but this may have been closer to the 17 Century? If so, then Sloops, Barks, Galleons, Frigates followed by rated Ship of the Lines .. would be dominant and along with Sail Plans, Weapons etc. we discussed

[ July 07, 2004, 14:20: Message edited by: JLS ]