Yes, some people do nothing but ***** and moan, but the rest of us DO 'complain' for a reason. I may just be speaking for myself but this is an INCREDIBLE game, but it is also a game with INCREDIBLE potential. The complexity of it is amazing, and the problems are with that complexity and the fact that the AI cannot handle it like a human, but then no AI will ever handle it like a human (or think of 'cheese' tactics like a human, mining enemy starting planets early on, UGH.

). I complain because I care, I want to see this game reach its potential, not be remembered like Moo2 as 'great but I wish the game had done _____.). This game will probally be remembered in the future as games like the first few Ultimas, or the Gold box SSI roleplaying series, or Civ I. I look back and wish todays games could be more like those, in later years I'll look back and wish they could be like SE4. I appreciate the time and effort put into this game, the forum, and the upkeep (patching) of the game. In a society that just seems to release games and then forget about them or the people that bought them its nice to see a company that cares. And players that want the best. We want to help to improve the game, (thats where the Modders shine

. ) So please don't take all the comments as *****ing, most of us just want to see the game shine even brighter. Moo3 and Stars! Supernova Genesis are coming, lets make people wish they could be more like SE4.
Sorry about the length and ranting of this post but I had to shove my 2cents into the mix.
Steve.
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"The Empress took your name away," said Chance.
Owen smiled coldly. "It wasn't hers to take. I'm a Deathstalker until I die. And we never forget a slight or an enemy." -Owen Deathstalker.