Semi-OT: We will go to Stars.

[Spoo]

Using the description outlined earlier imagine that you Quantum Teleported electrons instead of photons. Assuming a transciver could be built small enough, you could have elliminate all need for batteries, powerlines, etc. All the electrical power would be "beamed" directly to the device needing it anywhere in the universe instantaniously.

Instantaneous teleportation of electrons to anywhere in the universe? I think not.

[Suicide Junkie]

Originally posted by Yimboli:
Correct me if I am mistaken: You cannot go faster than the speed of light through a *vacuum*. You can, however, go faster than the speed of light through a different medium, such as water. Water slows the speed of light significantly, and you can make a particle go faster than how fast light goes through water - and weird things happen.

Yes? No?

The speed of light waves in water is about 2/3 c.
When you have radioactive materials in the water, and they emit subatomic particles at above 2/3 c, then they produce Cherenkov radiation, which is the equivalent of a sonic boom.

However, relativistic effects are relative to c, not the speed of light in a local medium.

[Gryphin]

Two Positions:
Humans will live long enough to develope FTL

Humans will kill themselves off first.

"Some days you get the bear. Some days the bear gets you."

[Ruatha]

Tunneling is an interesting phenomenon, that I'll have to read further into before I say anything, read along with me:

FTL Experiments
FTL PHysics

[ July 21, 2004, 06:45: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[dumbluck]

I see only one problem with the whole concept of establishing remote colonies that will never exchange population (ala remote seeding ships). That problem is called Evolution. When a population of critters is cut off from the main population of critters, the two populations evolve along different path. Eventually, the splinter critters aren't critters anymore, they're creepy crawleys, or what have you.

So if HUMANS establish remote colonies in other starsystems WITHOUT the ability to travel back and forth fairly regularly, those remote colonies will eventually not even be human colonies anymore. They'd be aliens!

[ July 21, 2004, 21:09: Message edited by: dumbluck ]

[Slick]

Logically, if we could get there to establish the colony in the first place, it shouldn't take much longer until we could make a round trip. But, yeah, that's why places like Austrailia have so many unique creatures.

The non-humans are different too. j/k

Slick.

[oleg]

Originally posted by dumbluck:
I see only one problem with the whole concept of establishing remote colonies that will never exchange population (ala remote seeding ships). That problem is called Evolution. When a population of critters is cut off from the main population of critters, the two populations evolve along different path. Eventually, the splinter critters aren't critters anymore, they're creepy crawleys, or what have you.

So if HUMANS establish remote colonies in other starsystems WITHOUT the ability to travel back and forth fairly regularly, those remote colonies will eventually not even be human colonies anymore. They'd be aliens!

Evolution requires the driving external pressure for the survival of the fittest. Progress in technology excused humans from the general natural order. Even primitive Stone age technology freezed our evolution for 400K years now - there were no changes in our nature since