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July 28th, 2004, 04:17 PM
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Re: OMG: The Revenge of the Sith
Ya, I agree with Greg's post too, mostly, but I'm curious about the Greedo part:
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I loved the original trilogy. I was 14 in May of 77 (has it been that long?), and remember that film fondly. I liked what Lucas did in 97 when he remade them, except for one thing. He should have kept the scene where Han Solo shot Greedo. Adding that part where Greedo's hand comes out with a bLaster still doesn't sit with me. I know since ROTJ he's dumbed down the storylines to cater to children or the really geeky nerds, but I wish he would have left that particular scene alone in the special edition.
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My memory was that he had levelled a bLaster at Han in the original film, too. Han just shot him under the table while acting like he was talking to him.
I thought most of the the "remake" additions were bad, actually - stupid flying little robots in Mos Eisley streets that were obviously not there, and not seen by anyone, and so on. I thought the Death Star explosion was NOT improved by adding one of those stupid 2-dimensional fireworks rings - that explosion could have been made better, like with some really good CGI that added debris and stuff, but the old "ring of silliness" effect? The only additions I remember liking were the scene with the saurian-rider stormtroopers, and the scene with Han Solo and Jabba. Oh, I guess the added gobs of storm troopers in the Han Solo chase were comical, too, though it was already a funny enough scene without them.
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July 28th, 2004, 09:22 PM
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Re: OMG: The Revenge of the Sith
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Originally posted by PvK:
Ya, I agree with Greg's post too, mostly, but I'm curious about the Greedo part:
quote: Originally posted by gregebowman:
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I loved the original trilogy. I was 14 in May of 77 (has it been that long?), and remember that film fondly. I liked what Lucas did in 97 when he remade them, except for one thing. He should have kept the scene where Han Solo shot Greedo. Adding that part where Greedo's hand comes out with a bLaster still doesn't sit with me. I know since ROTJ he's dumbed down the storylines to cater to children or the really geeky nerds, but I wish he would have left that particular scene alone in the special edition.
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My memory was that he had levelled a bLaster at Han in the original film, too. Han just shot him under the table while acting like he was talking to him.
I thought most of the the "remake" additions were bad, actually - stupid flying little robots in Mos Eisley streets that were obviously not there, and not seen by anyone, and so on. I thought the Death Star explosion was NOT improved by adding one of those stupid 2-dimensional fireworks rings - that explosion could have been made better, like with some really good CGI that added debris and stuff, but the old "ring of silliness" effect? The only additions I remember liking were the scene with the saurian-rider stormtroopers, and the scene with Han Solo and Jabba. Oh, I guess the added gobs of storm troopers in the Han Solo chase were comical, too, though it was already a funny enough scene without them.
PvK It's been awhile since I've seen the revised Version of ANH. I bought the tapes, but they've been in storage since 2000. And it's not like Sci-Fi channel shows them all of the time like they used to. But in the original scene in the cantina, Greedo indicated to Han that he was going to bring him in for the bounty, alive or dead, but IIRC, didn't actually make a move for his weapon. Han just shot him to make sure Greedo didn't carry out his threat. I'd have to see it again to make sure. Unfortunately, GL won't release the original Version of the movie, just the revised Versions.
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July 29th, 2004, 02:15 AM
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Re: OMG: The Revenge of the Sith
I have not seen the revised Episode IV, but I do seem to remember that in the original one, Han shoots first and the other guy was not pointing a weapon or anything, just talking.
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July 29th, 2004, 02:31 AM
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Re: OMG: The Revenge of the Sith
I think C3PO will at least have his memory wiped since he can't keep his mouth shut. R2D2 might as well, but I think maybe not. He can't talk normally but I get the impression he is much more in the know than C3PO. He knows all this stuff but keeps his mouth shut. As for Han shooting first, of course he did. Han didn't become a succesful smuggler by sticking to the rules. Greedo said he was going to either kill Han or take him to Jabba (who isn't exactly happy with him) so Han does whats necessary. If he had known Greedo would be the one to find him he would have hidden in the shadows and shot Greedo in the back when he wasn't looking. You can be the loveable rogue without being a goody two shoes  .
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July 29th, 2004, 02:49 AM
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Re: OMG: The Revenge of the Sith
One thing I don't understand from episodes I and II is, if Senator Palpatine is the Sith Lord, why don't the Jedi sense the dark side in him? I assumed that Palpatine is able to hide his power somehow.
Or maybe there's some sort of trick where Palpatine is actually not Darth Sidius, but a clone?
Also, the rule about only two Siths existing at one time doesn't sound like such a good idea. There's a master and an apprentice, and that's it? So the master has to die before the apprentice can call himself the new master and take on a new apprentice.
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July 29th, 2004, 02:52 AM
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Re: OMG: The Revenge of the Sith
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only two Siths existing at one time doesn't sound like such a good idea. There's a master and an apprentice, and that's it? So the master has to die before the apprentice can call himself the new master and take on a new apprentice.
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Actually I think the "tradition" works more like the apprentice killing the master off (or vice versa..) then getting a new apprentice.
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July 29th, 2004, 03:09 AM
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Re: OMG: The Revenge of the Sith
What happened to Grand Moff Tarkin? In Star Wars he was the Emperors top military commander and in charge of the Death Star. No mention of him in PM, or AOTC, and I doubt he will be in ROTS.
This leaves a bit whole for which Lucas should fall in and drown.
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