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June 22nd, 2004, 09:32 PM
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Re: Karan Game (in progress)
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quote: Originally posted by Teraswaerto:
and managed to get too many of my SCs and devils killed, particularly in an attempt to rout-kill Abysia's IDs, which failed miserably.
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yeah that didn't work out so good. honestly I thought you had more than you had as far as tough SC-type dudes go.
I had several more, but they were not within flying distance of the province where the battle took place.
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June 22nd, 2004, 11:46 PM
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Re: Karan Game (in progress)
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Man and I started planning our war against Pangaea something like 30 turns before we attacked him, and I'm pretty sure that was a mistake. We waited too long.
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I agree on this. After 2 early wars I was in a bad shape, my research was way behind, I had nothing but regular armies and my infrastructure was virtually non-existent. But by the time you've attacked I had my armies almost ready. I would prefer to have 2-3 peaceful turns more, but that was ok, I just had to sit for a couple of turns in my forts while you were beating my money-eating outdated armies 
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June 23rd, 2004, 12:23 AM
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Re: Karan Game (in progress)
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I agree we waited too long - I wanted to finish up Arco so that I wouldn't have to worry about him attacking my flank, but it cost us in the end.
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Well, I already had all the ice devils summoned by the time C'Tis died, so what you would have mostly gained was not having to deal with the 8 soul contracts I had working.
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June 23rd, 2004, 03:43 PM
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Re: Karan Game (in progress)
maybe what we should have done was to get Mictlan to attack Pan, but me not attack Abysia until I had cleaned up Arco. Since Abysia didn't connect anywhere with Mictlan he might not have been able to jump in with much force. However, hindsight is 20/20.
Honestly I think one of the reasons why I hesitated was because I had a bad feeling about attacking you guys.
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June 23rd, 2004, 04:44 PM
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Re: Karan Game (in progress)
What I really want to know is just how many clams and what kind of astral income R'Lyeh had by the end. It must have been huge by turn 80. Pan and I also had an alliance, and were almost certain that Man and Mictlan were allied, so as soon as Mictlan began attacking Pan I would have jumped in and started attacking Man.
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June 23rd, 2004, 05:56 PM
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Re: Karan Game (in progress)
What we should've done was attack Pangaea while he was still fighting Caelum, since the birdmen would've been a "free" ally at that point, though from what I saw, Caelum's war machine was rather underwhelming...
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June 23rd, 2004, 07:50 PM
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Re: Karan Game (in progress)
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from what I saw, Caelum's war machine was rather underwhelming...
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this is definitely true - perhaps because he lost a bunch of mammoths to Abysia early on.
But I think you're right about attacking when Caelum was going down.
Graeme, you really would have attacked me without me attacking you, just because Mictlan attacked Pangaea? This is surprising to me - even if you're pretty certain people are allied, it's still something of a step to attack unprovoked.
I should point out the one good thing gained by waiting: an ally in Machaka. This wouldn't have come without us beating up on Arco together.
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