Umm, have to bring up the new "look"

Master Belisarius · #1 April 2nd, 2001, 08:19 PM

I can understand the Jason argument, but... has someone noted that in SE4, usually you need to kill millions of people to have success?

DirectorTsaarx · #2 April 2nd, 2001, 08:54 PM

We're not killing "people" in SE4, we're killing aliens! Well, OK, I'm being sarcastic; yes, it's a little unnerving that the best way to win the game is to commit mass genocide of multiple sentient races. Even the "peaceful" game options usually involve killing off the more radical empires.

I usually justify the whole thing by waiting until the AI declares war on me, and even then I frequently wait until one of my planets has been attacked before I start whuppin' 'em. Makes me feel a little better about glassing those colonies. My motto is "Retaliate and escalate". It used to be "Retaliate first", but that was a little cold-blooded and quite anti-social

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My only problem with the bullet is that it doesn't have much place on the SE4 forum. Oughta be something a little more futuristic-looking. But then the other game Boards here would want _their_ own icons, and that would require even _more_ work on Shrapnel's part...

ColdSteel · #3 April 2nd, 2001, 09:12 PM

I think everyone that frequents this site has some real intelligence and can tell the difference between abstracted computer violence (quite cathathic, actually) and the real kind. Most of those few in our society who cannot tell the difference exhibit these problems and symptoms from an early age.

While I do think it is commendable to have such scruples, I also think they are a bit misplaced here in this case. After all, this is in reality a wargame and this site sells wargames. In fact I like and enjoy playing wargames.

I think we all have to exhibit some balance and common sense in our lives or next we'll have to stop saying things like "it's number one with a bullet". Being PC can just go too far.

I also believe that healthy, sane humans can view pictures of bullets on a website and not have it directly affect them or the way they live their lives in terms of being violent. I'd consider a person extremely abnormal if they said it did.
JMHO.

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Nitram Draw · #4 April 2nd, 2001, 09:33 PM

I understand your concerns. I don't like it when my little girl askes why I keep blowing things up but it could be worse, they could have put a jagged piece of metal up there

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Tim Brooks · #5 April 2nd, 2001, 09:36 PM

OK Guys:

Let's see what everyone thinks. Look at our announcemnts (should be at the top of this page entitled: The New Forum Look and The Bullet).

Read and vote!

Best regards,

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Shrapnel Games

Jason2 · #6 April 2nd, 2001, 11:18 PM

On a side note, I hope, Richard and others at Shrapnel, that you do not feel slighted. I simply was sharing my thought. I love SEIV (and admit to laughing out loud over the post about how to achieve victory and ... um... glassing planets, and over the post about a jagged piece of metal) and your other games. I just thought I would post and see what others thought.

J2

mottlee · #7 April 2nd, 2001, 11:33 PM

I agree the bullet is out of place tho not for the same reasons, 1, this is a "Space" game 2,guns DO NOT kill people, People kill people! (oops...different soap box)I like the over all look but it dose need to be something different at the top

(thats mt $0.02 worth)
Mott

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