What did I missed from Dom I.? -> DIPLOMACY!

Mortifer · #1 September 22nd, 2003, 09:56 AM

Eh lol, than what is that sentence on Shrapnels site? "1) The strongest AI we have EVER seen!"

If the AI is really that good, they can make a decent diplo AI as well, I guess.

Anyways I understand your points, still I say that a good diplo system adds a lot to any games.
If the diplo AI is really good, you cannot abuse it.

[ September 22, 2003, 08:56: Message edited by: Mortifer ]

Nerfix · #2 September 22nd, 2003, 03:00 PM

*sigh*
Have you actualy played Dominions I?
It's peace until either you or AI attacks, and there will eventualy be a "peace". Why is it so hard to understand that its a conceptual thing?

Mortifer · #3 September 22nd, 2003, 03:39 PM

Yes I played with it....I understand all things about the game concept, it is you who dont get my point. You say you cannot make truces or alliances even in Holy War? The best example is the Crusades. Those nations who were involved in it, lived in peace before and after it. Its all about diplomacy.
So if you ask me Dominion is more like a strategical deathmatch.

I think a strategy game with a diplo system is lot better, than a 'go and conquer' game...
I like the idea that you can set up alliances in the editor at least.

Nerfix · #4 September 22nd, 2003, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nerfix:
It's peace until either you or AI attacks, and there will eventualy be a "peace".

Does this sound like Crusade? Just insert the religious propaganda and bragging, and you have a Crusade.

Mortifer · #5 September 22nd, 2003, 04:19 PM

So if you attack an AI, or the AI attacks you, there will be no more peace, am I correct? I didnt remember, I played with the game long time ago.

A few final words.:
The concept of the game [holy war] shouldnt wipe out diplomacy. Its still acceptable that there wont be any kind of diplomacy, but as I said, it would be lot more fun to make alliances, exchange troops or territories. Of course this would require a decent diplo AI.

Perhaps as an addon, Illwinter should try to add something like that.

It would be an awesome addition...

MythicalMino · #6 September 22nd, 2003, 04:28 PM

you misunderstand me....

I agree...a good diplomacy model would be good....but, in this game, I don't miss it...in Civ series, I would...

but I just don't really miss it...

If, they put one in that works...GREAT....that will just add that much more to move it closer to fantasy tbs perfection...but, "I" don't miss it...

Pocus · #7 September 22nd, 2003, 04:45 PM

I think there is two issues : diplomacy, and sharing of same space. I dont care a dime about diplomacy in MP, but I would have really appreciated to have an order which would let the troops of my ally move thru one of my province without triggering a combat with the units I have there. This, I miss a lot.

the problem of not having that is that the game is more compartimented by physical positioning of players that most other games. You wont have choice, and you are forced to interact with your neighbors, be it peace or war.