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[Daynarr]

The costs aren't different.

I was just referring to max damage you can do with them early, not the cheapest way (6 vs. 2 ogres is quite a difference). Of course, getting 5th level in nature also enables you to cast Mother Oak and Gift of Health so its sort of "side effect" and getting Mother Oak early would make up for nature games you spend before.
Panganea can do it too, probably even faster, but they would have trouble with water nations and won't have Hydras to accompany those Vine Ogres (deadly combo).

On smaller or special-site-rare maps its probably not possible but on larger you will probably find enough nature sites to get this done (of course there is a luck factor in it all).

[Daynarr]

Not 100% sure but Druids are much harder to find, however Sages are much more common.

[Nerfix]

I think Druids might be the one of the easiest indept. mages that you can find. They are almost as "common" as diffrent Amazons.

[Kristoffer O]

They are bothe less common nowdays.

Most independents are keyed to province terrains. Thus garnet amazons in wastelands, druids in forests, lizards in swamps, knights in farmlands etc.

The same goes for sites.

[Nerfix]

Nothing new to me, since i have lurked the dom2progress site almost from the beginning...

BTW, any new independents?
Dominions I had:
Barbarians
Woodsmen
Amazons
Feudals(knights, longbowmen)
Lizards
Kindoms(heavy infantry, militias etc.)
Sea Trolls
Tritons(not sure of the name, the fishmen)

I'm not sure if that was all...

[ September 21, 2003, 18:07: Message edited by: Nerfix ]

[Kristoffer O]

Ichtyids. Probably other as well.

[Nerfix]

Ichtyids?
*shiver*
Spooky name...