cavalry archers, and other lost units

apoger · #1 October 14th, 2003, 12:37 AM

This goes back to a discussion from way back on the Usenet...

I suggest a "raid" order. This is what light cav (and cav archers) could excel at.

Have raiders cross from one province to an enemy province. Once there they engage in a fire and flee battle. Doen't matter what the results are, the province hit should experience heavy unrest, as population does not like enemy troops romping around and causing trouble.

Light troops are better for this situation since on defense they can run down raiders. On offense they can escape. Archers allow for some extra attacks before the raiders flee.

Want to stop raiders from crossing the border, causing trouble, starting a skirmish, and leaving? Then go to war and invade. Just like real life.

I think this would add a new dimension to the game, would be easy to implement, and would raise the value of light cavalry.

PDF · #2 October 14th, 2003, 10:54 AM

"Harass", "Skirmish", "Raid", whatever, please give us an order that makes Lt Cav behave like Lt Cav should ...
Today again I viewed a battle involving Cav Archers : the guys shoots incoming HI, but when the HI come to contact they engage instead of just breaking to the sides and continue peltering the footsloggers ... And then they're cut to pieces, game over

Not a very effective Lt Cav eventually...

Pocus · #3 October 14th, 2003, 12:59 PM

the fire and flee works in an interesting manner now (dunno if it will makes original release though, perhaps the first patch)

Psitticine · #4 October 14th, 2003, 04:13 PM

The improvements to Fire and Flee and the other orders that lead to units exiting the battlefield will be in the first patch. There wasn't time to get them into the gold Version and have them tested out thoroughly without delaying everything, which would not be good.

To summorize those improvements for those who don't know what I'm talking about, units that have been ordered to make a strategic retreat will remain in position with the army if it wins the battle. Those that rout due to morale failure will still be scattered in neighboring provinces, just as before.

I'm not sure what will happen in a raiding situation if everybody has been ordered to retreat and the battle is "lost" because of the that. They may return to their province-of-orgin but I don't know. I'll post an update on that part of things when I have more info.

Pocus · #5 October 15th, 2003, 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by Psitticine:
I'm not sure what will happen in a raiding situation if everybody has been ordered to retreat and the battle is "lost" because of the that. They may return to their province-of-orgin but I don't know. I'll post an update on that part of things when I have more info.

originally, when you loose a fight, you retreat to the highest numbered province. This could lead to some abuse, and was anyway not that optimal. I would like to have the units retreat into their province of origin, if still controlled, and if not, randomly.