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October 3rd, 2003, 10:32 AM
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Re: Questions about National Heroes
As far as I recall the chance of getting a hero is .005 +.002 per luck scale per turn. If pocus is correvt there is a change in the code that I do not know about or a bug.
There are new theme specific heroes as well as a few new heroes for some of the standard themes.
Carrion Pangaea for example gets an Ettin manikin commander etc. Tien Chi gets a number of immortals. Desert tombs a Mummified priest king with some extra powers etc.
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October 3rd, 2003, 10:39 AM
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Re: Questions about National Heroes
It's a good thing that there is a greater number of national heroes, their scarcity in Dom1 was a shame, as they really add spice. 
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October 3rd, 2003, 02:21 PM
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Re: Questions about National Heroes
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As far as I recall the chance of getting a hero is .005 +.002 per luck scale per turn. If pocus is correvt there is a change in the code that I do not know about or a bug.
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Now i feel unsure. I still think that I had -3 luck in my testbed (Marignon with order +3 luck -3, to suppress nearly all (bad) events), but perhaps it was -2 (1% chance then).
strangely I would have thought (from experience) that you have more chance to get an hero early, as mines often appears in the 20 first turns. But you formula dont account for the passage of time.
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October 3rd, 2003, 02:32 PM
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Re: Questions about National Heroes
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As far as I recall the chance of getting a hero is .005 +.002 per luck scale per turn. If pocus is correvt there is a change in the code that I do not know about or a bug.
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I'm not sure I understand… Is that a percentage? So on the first turn, with no luck scale, your chance is .5%?
And are you saying it's cumulative? - so .5% 1st turn, 1% 2nd turn, 1.5% 3rd turn, etc.? And I'm assuming this gets reset when you actually get one?
It still seems quite scarce - after 20 turns the chance would equal 10% with no luck scale, and with +3 luck scale 22% - if my reasoning is right
Thanks for the answers - it's cool that there are theme-specific heroes. Looking forward more and more… 
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October 3rd, 2003, 03:03 PM
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Re: Questions about National Heroes
I think that cumulative chance of getting a hero isn't so weird as it sounds, i often notice that heroes usualy start to appear more often the longer you have played.
And it kinda makes sense too with your fame growing etc.
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October 3rd, 2003, 03:21 PM
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Re: Questions about National Heroes
It is not cumulative, turns out though that I was way off on the numbers. Which became obvious after I thought about how often you do get heroes even with negative luck scales. Base chance is 3% +1% per luck scale. So with luck 3 you still have 0.94^30 appr.=29% to not recieve a hero after 30 turns. Sorry about the misinformation I probably jumbled the numbers with the pop growth numbers.
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October 3rd, 2003, 03:29 PM
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Re: Questions about National Heroes
Well, it would have still made sense...
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