Questions about the Niefelheim theme

[Daynarr]

It's 120 slaves and requires level 5 blood and level 3 water mage. Not easy to acquire and will suffer greatly in all other areas (magic, research, dominion) if you go for early casting. However, I still haven't tried to cast the damn thing so I can't tell how overpowering it is. I just don't want to test it in PBEM and wait and some big anti-Jotunheim-alliance to kill me (not so difficult even with lower income since many nations can gather powerful magic troops early (like Tien Chi).

[ October 04, 2003, 16:18: Message edited by: Daynarr ]

[Nerfix]

OK, does Son of Niefel(the pretender) still cost 50 points? And his new magic picks still cost the same 50 as in Dominions I?

[Daynarr]

Yes, still 50, 50.

[Nerfix]

If things haven't changed much from Dom I, it's not that hard to make a 6 Water/6 Blood Son of Niefel without penalising yourself too much.
Ok, i take 2 steps of Drain scale, but it just helps me to protect my precious undead critters.

However, does Niefelheim theme cost design points?

[ October 04, 2003, 17:50: Message edited by: Nerfix ]

[Daynarr]

It costs 50 points. You are right you can get 6 6 pretender without too much penalizing, but if you take drain you will have even worse research. Illwinter wont win game by itself.

[ October 04, 2003, 18:07: Message edited by: Daynarr ]

[Nerfix]

But if you don't take the Drain scale, your undead units will be more vulnerable to banishment, and i believe JO said that Giants of Niefelheim are skilled in "Black Arts" I.E Death magic.

I could also take 2 Order(i take it anyway) and 2 Unluck and leave Magic/Drain to zero. I however prefer Drain 2 over Unluck 2.

[Rollo]

well, you have quite good spellcasters with Niefelheim IMO. Wouldn't drain weaken them and screw up your research?