Nagas and other "lost" pretenders

[Jasper]

Originally posted by Daynarr:
Don't forget special blessing bonuses you receive at levels 4 and 9. If you want to boost your blessings, dragons are a good and cheap way to go. IMHO it makes them even more valuable (Nagas as well).

I disagree. Dragons are not cheap when you take into account their initial dominion of 1. In order to get even a middle of the road 5* dominion you'll spend 105* points; a pretender starting with 3 dominion spends 42* pts. This puts them about on par with one of the 125 pt titans price wise, which is about as expensive as Pretenders come in Dominions.

Now that I think about it, titans are a good comparison from an effectiveness standpoint. Titans can more easily cast spells and fight, can freely use items to boost their combat power, start with more magic, have cheaper suplemental paths, and have cheaper prices for higher dominion. In return a dragon gets a few extra hitpoints, decent natural protection, and a not exactly awe-inspiring breath weapon. Nor are titans particularily potent pretenders...

I like and play Titans as well as Dragons, but I don't let this interfere with my assement of their balance.

* Edit: Oops! Those are the costs for a 6 dominion.

[ October 08, 2003, 10:41: Message edited by: Jasper ]

[Daynarr]

Originally posted by Jasper:
I disagree. Dragons are not cheap when you take into account their initial dominion of 1. In order to get even a middle of the road 5 dominion you'll spend 105 points; a pretender starting with 3 dominion spends 42 pts. This puts them about on par with one of the 125 pt titans price wise, which is about as expensive as Pretenders come in Dominions.

AFAIK there are no Titans, just Titan. There is female Titan though, with 1 in astral and nature but getting any of those to level 9 leaves you with little more then 100 points. The only Titan can get to level 9 in AIR easily and only in AIR which makes your holy troops 75% shock resistant.

And what if you want to use other bonuses instead? Like fire weapons if you get level 9 in fire. Will you use titan for that? Or nature level 9 to give regeneration to your holy ones? Or water level 9 to get quickness? I don't REALLY see what do you have to agree and disagree with my post. My post was not about comparing Titans with Dragons, it was about getting those blessings and Titan can be only used to get Air level 9. If you like Air bonus Titan is way to go, but if you like to get some other bonus you will most certainly NOT use him. Dominion or no dominion.

[Daynarr]

[quote]Originally posted by Nerfix:

Uhhh...
Wasn't it at levels 4, 6 and 9?

Only level 4 and 9. Why do you think level 6 would give bonus?

[Jasper]

Sorry Daynarr, I misunderstood you to have meant that dragons are cheap in general. I honestly hadn't even considered starting with a 9 in any field as a viable option, due to the extreme cost.

Hmmm, which indirectly brings up an interesting question. Do the special bonuses to holy troops stem from a Pretender's initial magic skills, or his current magic skills? Can you increase them with items or empowerment? What if you die?

[ October 08, 2003, 10:39: Message edited by: Jasper ]

[Kristoffer O]

Initial. Empowerment or death makes no difference.

[Kristoffer O]

Nerfix: 4 is the starting level for the lower effect. The power of the bless increases with levels. At ninth level you will get an additional power that does not change with level.

[Nerfix]

Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
Nerfix: 4 is the starting level for the lower effect. The power of the bless increases with levels. At ninth level you will get an additional power that does not change with level.

Ah. I thougth that you get the lesser effect at level 4, at level 6 the lesser effect gets stronger and then at level 9 you get the major effect.

So the effect(s) scale(s)?

[ October 08, 2003, 14:19: Message edited by: Nerfix ]