Noob questions!

Pocus · #1 October 8th, 2003, 08:21 AM

Frankly it must be me, but I dont see the point in this whole arena concept, as it is now. Well, if the goal is to weaken the AI, then it works perfectly.

The sole interest, and nearly all your Posts confirm it, is that it is a way for the player to abuse the AI.

No sane player would dare commit a decent leader into the arena. On the other hand, the AI is coded to engage a worthy combattant, be it a prophet, his god, or another commander.

yes it can be fun at time, example your first solo game of dominions. After you discover what lie behind the feature, you only use it to exploit the AI opponents.

DominionsFan · #2 October 8th, 2003, 09:11 AM

Yup, the AI must be tweaked for the Arena matches in Doms II.

[ October 08, 2003, 08:11: Message edited by: DominionsFAN ]

johan osterman · #3 October 8th, 2003, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by Pocus:
Frankly it must be me, but I dont see the point in this whole arena concept, as it is now. Well, if the goal is to weaken the AI, then it works perfectly.

The arena is not supposed to have a point, it is supposed to be fun. The trident is not supposed to be the best weapon in the game, it is supposed to be a sticky trident. The whole thing is just a feature slapped on because it is neat, there is no particular point to it.

Mortifer · #4 October 8th, 2003, 09:28 AM

Johan, it is a very good thing to have an arena combat. I think that it should be upgraded even.
I think the champ should get random magic items. Those items should be unique, and only given for arena champs.
I agree that the AI should be tweaked for the Arena matches, IE. the AI should make an Arena competitor only with the right equipment, and stop sending in his best leaders in bad equipment, etc.

[ October 08, 2003, 08:28: Message edited by: Mortifer ]

Pocus · #5 October 8th, 2003, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by johan osterman:

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Originally posted by Pocus:
Frankly it must be me, but I dont see the point in this whole arena concept, as it is now. Well, if the goal is to weaken the AI, then it works perfectly.

The arena is not supposed to have a point, it is supposed to be fun. The trident is not supposed to be the best weapon in the game, it is supposed to be a sticky trident. The whole thing is just a feature slapped on because it is neat, there is no particular point to it.

ah yes, it is fun in the sense 'what can I do to screw this stupid AI this time? Should I bring explosion medaillion, cursed items, totem shield?'.
I can understand than one can have fun reviewing the battles generated and see all these AI prophets or gods going down or be cursed or afflicted.

Aristoteles · #6 October 8th, 2003, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by Pocus:

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Originally posted by johan osterman:

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Originally posted by Pocus:
Frankly it must be me, but I dont see the point in this whole arena concept, as it is now. Well, if the goal is to weaken the AI, then it works perfectly.

The arena is not supposed to have a point, it is supposed to be fun. The trident is not supposed to be the best weapon in the game, it is supposed to be a sticky trident. The whole thing is just a feature slapped on because it is neat, there is no particular point to it.
ah yes, it is fun in the sense 'what can I do to screw this stupid AI this time? Should I bring explosion medaillion, cursed items, totem shield?'.
I can understand than one can have fun reviewing the battles generated and see all these AI prophets or gods going down or be cursed or afflicted.

LOL..sad but true. Arena is a very good idea, but the AI sucks in Doms I. It is way to easy to abuse the AI. [Curse etc. etc.]

[ October 08, 2003, 11:14: Message edited by: Aristoteles ]

johan osterman · #7 October 8th, 2003, 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by Pocus:
ah yes, it is fun in the sense 'what can I do to screw this stupid AI this time? Should I bring explosion medaillion, cursed items, totem shield?'.
I can understand than one can have fun reviewing the battles generated and see all these AI prophets or gods going down or be cursed or afflicted.

I think you are overstating your case. If you bring an amulet or veneance or other similar item you can just screw with one of the AI nations. And so what if the AI's prohpet dies, it is not like it puts a huge dent in his carefully laid plans.