.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Air Assault Task Force- Save $8.00
Bronze- Save $10.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Illwinter Game Design > Dominions 2: The Ascension Wars

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old October 10th, 2003, 09:50 AM

Humer Humer is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Finland
Posts: 72
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Humer is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Noob questions!

Quote:
Originally posted by Aristoteles:
quote:
Originally posted by Mortifer:

How to fix the Arena?

1.The champ's prize is not good enough. The prize should be a unique, random, Arena only magic item.
2. The champ should be totally healed.
I reckon this. This is a good way to upgrade the Arena!!
How about making a unique troop type recruitable for the winning side? I realise this might not be an easy job to implement, but would be cool IMO.

Or give the winner a pack of unique bodyguards (unremovable), which replenish b/w battles.

I like the idea of beefing up the arena, since I don't see it worth the risk as it is now.

- Humer
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old October 10th, 2003, 04:02 PM

licker licker is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 990
Thanks: 13
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
licker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Noob questions!

Hmm, the more I've thought about this arena issue the more it begins to annoy me.

If it was just intended as a small distraction in game fine, but if no one on this board says they bother with it, then it becomes solely a sink for AI commanders. I don't really care weather or not the effect on the AI is great or not, the arena amounts to the same thing as periodically going trough every AI nation and randomly (or not so randomly) removing a commander. Now if that were implemeted in the game I wonder how many people would be more bothered by it.

So I repeat my request to make the arena optional at the game creation phase. Shouldn't be all that hard to add another option when you already can choose site frequency, indie strengths, ...

Now some people will again say, 'don't worry, its not a big effect on game play...' to them I say, 1st I disagree with the potential effect on game balance for the AIs, and 2nd, if it really isn't a big deal, and you never use it, then why keep it around in the first place? I'm not asking for it to be ripped out, merely made optional at the start.

Of course if the risk/reward and cost/benefit of the arena were tweeked I'd probably change my mind
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old October 10th, 2003, 04:42 PM

Pocus Pocus is offline
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Nuts-Land, counting them.
Posts: 1,329
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Pocus is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Noob questions!

Quote:
Originally posted by licker:
If it was just intended as a small distraction in game fine, but if no one on this board says they bother with it, then it becomes solely a sink for AI commanders.
I think it summarize well the situation. It is fun for the developers at least, and a developer happy is a developer which codes better
__________________
Currently playing: Dominions III, Civilization IV, Ageod American Civil War.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old October 10th, 2003, 04:48 PM
Saber Cherry's Avatar

Saber Cherry Saber Cherry is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Crystal Tokyo
Posts: 2,453
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Saber Cherry is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Noob questions!

I like the arena, and I think it already is essentially optional. I don't think it's the big problem people are making it out to be.

Granted, I would love to see some changes (a qualifying round!), but I think that the way it is currently adds to the game.

-Cherry
__________________
Cherry
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old October 10th, 2003, 06:00 PM

licker licker is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 990
Thanks: 13
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
licker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Noob questions!

Quote:
Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
I like the arena, and I think it already is essentially optional. I don't think it's the big problem people are making it out to be.

Granted, I would love to see some changes (a qualifying round!), but I think that the way it is currently adds to the game.

-Cherry
How does it add to the game if no one is using it? It only makes life harder for the AI as every so often they simply pick a commander to lose. Big deal or not, its a needless penalty to the AI that could (probably) be easilly addressed by adding a switch.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old October 10th, 2003, 06:30 PM
Daynarr's Avatar

Daynarr Daynarr is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,555
Thanks: 5
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Daynarr is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Noob questions!

Quote:
Originally posted by licker:
How does it add to the game if no one is using it? It only makes life harder for the AI as every so often they simply pick a commander to lose. Big deal or not, its a needless penalty to the AI that could (probably) be easilly addressed by adding a switch.
What gives you idea that nobody uses it? I use it. Saber Cherry uses it. Any newcomer to Dom II will use it. In fact it adds flavor to the game, and if you don't like that flavor then it’s YOUR right and YOUR opinion. Not EVERYONES. So please stop making statements in my name.

[ October 10, 2003, 17:31: Message edited by: Daynarr ]
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old October 10th, 2003, 06:35 PM
Nagot Gick Fel's Avatar

Nagot Gick Fel Nagot Gick Fel is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,177
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Nagot Gick Fel is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Noob questions!

Quote:
Originally posted by licker:
How does it add to the game if no one is using it?
Actually I do use it in MP when I have a not-so-important commander who can win with reasonable chances of success - like, say, a DE or Sauromancer (both can win with just summoning undead) - or a Jotun Herse or Black Servant.
__________________
God does not play dice, He plays Dominions Albert von Ulm
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2025, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.