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October 10th, 2003, 09:50 AM
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Re: Noob questions!
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Originally posted by Aristoteles:
quote: Originally posted by Mortifer:
How to fix the Arena?
1.The champ's prize is not good enough. The prize should be a unique, random, Arena only magic item.
2. The champ should be totally healed.
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I reckon this. This is a good way to upgrade the Arena!! How about making a unique troop type recruitable for the winning side? I realise this might not be an easy job to implement, but would be cool IMO.
Or give the winner a pack of unique bodyguards (unremovable), which replenish b/w battles.
I like the idea of beefing up the arena, since I don't see it worth the risk as it is now.
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October 10th, 2003, 04:02 PM
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Re: Noob questions!
Hmm, the more I've thought about this arena issue the more it begins to annoy me.
If it was just intended as a small distraction in game fine, but if no one on this board says they bother with it, then it becomes solely a sink for AI commanders. I don't really care weather or not the effect on the AI is great or not, the arena amounts to the same thing as periodically going trough every AI nation and randomly (or not so randomly) removing a commander. Now if that were implemeted in the game I wonder how many people would be more bothered by it.
So I repeat my request to make the arena optional at the game creation phase. Shouldn't be all that hard to add another option when you already can choose site frequency, indie strengths, ...
Now some people will again say, 'don't worry, its not a big effect on game play...' to them I say, 1st I disagree with the potential effect on game balance for the AIs, and 2nd, if it really isn't a big deal, and you never use it, then why keep it around in the first place? I'm not asking for it to be ripped out, merely made optional at the start.
Of course if the risk/reward and cost/benefit of the arena were tweeked I'd probably change my mind 
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October 10th, 2003, 04:42 PM
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Re: Noob questions!
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If it was just intended as a small distraction in game fine, but if no one on this board says they bother with it, then it becomes solely a sink for AI commanders.
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I think it summarize well the situation. It is fun for the developers at least, and a developer happy is a developer which codes better 
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October 10th, 2003, 04:48 PM
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Re: Noob questions!
I like the arena, and I think it already is essentially optional. I don't think it's the big problem people are making it out to be.
Granted, I would love to see some changes (a qualifying round!), but I think that the way it is currently adds to the game.
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October 10th, 2003, 06:00 PM
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Re: Noob questions!
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Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
I like the arena, and I think it already is essentially optional. I don't think it's the big problem people are making it out to be.
Granted, I would love to see some changes (a qualifying round!), but I think that the way it is currently adds to the game.
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How does it add to the game if no one is using it? It only makes life harder for the AI as every so often they simply pick a commander to lose. Big deal or not, its a needless penalty to the AI that could (probably) be easilly addressed by adding a switch.
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October 10th, 2003, 06:30 PM
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Re: Noob questions!
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Originally posted by licker:
How does it add to the game if no one is using it? It only makes life harder for the AI as every so often they simply pick a commander to lose. Big deal or not, its a needless penalty to the AI that could (probably) be easilly addressed by adding a switch.
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What gives you idea that nobody uses it? I use it. Saber Cherry uses it. Any newcomer to Dom II will use it. In fact it adds flavor to the game, and if you don't like that flavor then it’s YOUR right and YOUR opinion. Not EVERYONES. So please stop making statements in my name.
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October 10th, 2003, 06:35 PM
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Re: Noob questions!
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How does it add to the game if no one is using it?
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Actually I do use it in MP when I have a not-so-important commander who can win with reasonable chances of success - like, say, a DE or Sauromancer (both can win with just summoning undead) - or a Jotun Herse or Black Servant.
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