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Old October 17th, 2003, 09:11 AM
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st. patrick:

No offense taken, and you bring up a good point, as it regards reviews. Here is what we can measure:

Positive reviews garner the most immediate sales for a product.

Negative reviews the next most.

NO Reviews or very few reviews the least.

So, we would rather have alot of negative reviews than for a product to be just ignored by the media.

From my marketing days in college, we were told that there is no such thing as bad press. Press, even negative, makes people aware of who you are and what you have and, of course, it is free. I think the premise was, it may hurt you short term, but in the long run, people will remember your company/ product, and forget why they remember it.

I assume this premise is still in place, but of course marketing has changed alot. Advertising use to bring customers immmediately. Now, from my understanding, advertising is considered a more long term investment. You can no longer look at advertising as a quick fix for sales, but an investment in prouct identity.

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Old October 17th, 2003, 06:12 PM
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st. patrick:

No offense taken, and you bring up a good point, as it regards reviews. Here is what we can measure:

Positive reviews garner the most immediate sales for a product.

Negative reviews the next most.

NO Reviews or very few reviews the least.

So, we would rather have alot of negative reviews than for a product to be just ignored by the media.

From my marketing days in college, we were told that there is no such thing as bad press. Press, even negative, makes people aware of who you are and what you have and, of course, it is free. I think the premise was, it may hurt you short term, but in the long run, people will remember your company/ product, and forget why they remember it.

I assume this premise is still in place, but of course marketing has changed alot. Advertising use to bring customers immmediately. Now, from my understanding, advertising is considered a more long term investment. You can no longer look at advertising as a quick fix for sales, but an investment in prouct identity.

Probably more information than you wanted to know...
It's all good. - though the way marketing in general works sometimes seems a little sneaky to me
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Old October 17th, 2003, 09:57 PM

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warning, personnal opinion coming :

I dont like the cover too. Too modern, too plainly basic. I would have preferred something along the line of an old sketch as someone said (da Vinci or along the line).
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I honestly like the old cover more, but from a perspective of drawing attention I can see why the new one would aid in marketing. Note that I think there's a trend of the people newer to dominions to like the new cover and the dominions 1 fans to like the old one. I could be wrong...but it seems that way.
I think its largely either the all blue scheme or the white lines all over the world that most give it the sci-fi look. But keep in mind the old dominions box looked nice with the old dominions interface...the new interface iself has a new color scheme.
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I, too, think the style of the Doms I cover was a much better fit, and more to my own tastes. There are also plenty of eye-catching ancient/medieval images which could've been used.

As for marketters... well, if they want some attention from the cover, there are some nice controversial medieval images of battles with heaps of chopped up bleeding corpses and stuff.



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I, too, think the style of the Doms I cover was a much better fit, and more to my own tastes. There are also plenty of eye-catching ancient/medieval images which could've been used.

As for marketters... well, if they want some attention from the cover, there are some nice controversial medieval images of battles with heaps of chopped up bleeding corpses and stuff.



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For demonic imagery, the works of Hieronymous Bosch might be a good starting point... possibly too disturbing and and too PG-13 for a computer game cover 'tho.
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