lab vault upgraded?

[MStavros]

Originally posted by Johan K:

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Originally posted by Jasper:
An alternative would be a function that simply dumped all leader information to a text file, which would be much easier. This could then be searched in a text editor, or used as input for a 3rd party tool. IIRC Stars! had something like this for sharing info with other players.

I like this idea much better. It would also make it possible to make a print out of all your provinces and commanders which you can then use to take notes on, read on the train or whatever.

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Well than add this at least?
Still the previous idea is lot better, IE a search option in game.
So you don't wanna add that search feature, because you are lazy?

This reminds me of Kristoffer's post in the Diplomacy thread. He said that JK is bored by AI scripting........
I really don't like this attitude. IW should listen to the fans, Pocus was right: you want us to buy the game, don't you?

[Wendigo]

Guys, they cannot listen to _every_ fan. It's impossible to satisfy everybody.

If there's a particular issue you consider important argument 'how much better' it would make the game, and maybe you will see it imped, or maybe not. The designers might disagree, or not have the time for it, or it might be impossible to implement code-wise.

[Jasper]

Originally posted by Johan K:

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Originally posted by Jasper:
An alternative would be a function that simply dumped all leader information to a text file, which would be much easier. This could then be searched in a text editor, or used as input for a 3rd party tool. IIRC Stars! had something like this for sharing info with other players.

I like this idea much better. It would also make it possible to make a print out of all your provinces and commanders which you can then use to take notes on, read on the train or whatever.

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It'd be especially cool if what you dump out could be read back into by another player, so you could share intelligence. Even better, if you could read in your own older turns, which would make keeping track of persistant information you can no longer see much easier.

[Jasper]

Originally posted by MStavros:
Well than add this at least?
Still the previous idea is lot better, IE a search option in game.
So you don't wanna add that search feature, because you are lazy?

You're insulting the _lone_ developer, who almost certainly already has way more to do than he has time for. It's one thing to talk about possible extensions and changes, it's quite another to demand _your_ ideas be implemented.

Why not relax a bit, and give these guys a break?

[Wendigo]

Originally posted by Pocus:
Lastly, do we have a tool which can tell us where our items are on our leaders? A search box, or a table listing items possessed on all leaders? try to find your staff of storm in a big game, you will understand the problem...
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This is one of the things that you could alleviate up to a point with the renaming feature:

My SoS bearer is often called Stormbringer for example, George used to rename his communion slaves to reflect their task, I sometimes rename support mages (etherealizers...) & commanders that require script with numerals (bad for RP, but sometimes the MM & confussion from duplicated names is too daunting...it even gets to a point that sometimes I do not care about giving info to my opponents if it makes my gaming more pleasant (they see the leading guy name in their province reports obviously).

Pls keep renaming (or at the least tags) in the game.

[Pocus]

Originally posted by Wendigo:
Guys, they cannot listen to _every_ fan. It's impossible to satisfy everybody.

If there's a particular issue you consider important argument 'how much better' it would make the game, and maybe you will see it imped, or maybe not. The designers might disagree, or not have the time for it, or it might be impossible to implement code-wise.

I hope you saw in my post that I was not asking the devs that they ought to include every single bit of feature everybody asked (which would be a rather impossible and anyway undersirable task) .

That they include or not a search function is not fundamental, I was heading to the principle : is it possible that they, sometime, code a feature because we the fans perceive it as important, or is it a definitive no? I dont remember that they ever changed their mind on a feature they didnt liked initialy. Feel free to refresh my mind if I miss something.

remember the thread about army destruction spells? Reread it, you will see that :
1 - nearly all (or is it all) fans expressed their view that they were somehow too potents/convenients.
2- no devs made a remark. Why? because they disagreed and they felt it was like this and not in any other way.

btw data dumping is fine for me. I remember with fondness these 3rd party Stars! utils which were doing that. Very practical.

M. Stravos : You position is far more rigid than the one I have. I, personally, can understand that they have the right to not accept 90% of the requests we have (requests asked by more than one person whats more, not speaking of every single concept everybody has 20 times a day!). What I would not like is a percentage of 100% denial.

[Pocus]

Originally posted by Wendigo:

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Originally posted by Pocus:
Lastly, do we have a tool which can tell us where our items are on our leaders? A search box, or a table listing items possessed on all leaders? try to find your staff of storm in a big game, you will understand the problem...

This is one of the things that you could alleviate up to a point with the renaming feature:

My SoS bearer is often called Stormbringer for example, George used to rename his communion slaves to reflect their task, I sometimes rename support mages (etherealizers...) & commanders that require script with numerals (bad for RP, but sometimes the MM & confussion from duplicated names is too daunting...it even gets to a point that sometimes I do not care about giving info to my opponents if it makes my gaming more pleasant (they see the leading guy name in their province reports obviously).

Pls keep renaming (or at the least tags) in the game. [/QB]

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This would not solve the problem of having to search who got your air ship. Is it a firbolg in the north for a raid, or you wyrm moving to the south? You will end searching amongst some dozen provinces which of your leader got the item.

Sure if your game is small, you wont even have the problem. But for the rest?