lab vault upgraded?

[MStavros]

Originally posted by johan osterman:

No the ideas are not bad, there is nothing bad about an ingame item search. But in your post you say that in game items search will not be added because JK doesnt want to code it. This is true in the same way it is true that you do not want to learn C and code it yourself, it is possible to do but it requires a lot of effort he think is better spent elswhere. Illwinter has limited resources and has to priorotise between additions, that is all there is to it, it will not change however much you complain about it, unless of course you plan on making a sizeable monetary contribution.

Sorry but there was a post by Kristoffer that JK was bored by scripting something.....Guess you didnt saw that post.

I can understand that you don't like an idea, but you must agree that this search option should be a decent addition.
If Iw want to concentrate on something else, that is ok, but please consider to add things like this. This feature would be very, very, very helpful indeed.

[Pocus]

I raised the issue because of the initial remark of Johan K. For him it doesnt feel important to ask a search feature in-game.
My point remain valid : few things have been done so far to alleviate the end game micro. If you check back a poll on the most asked features, it was rather obvious that the people **which played doms I** were very concerned about the micromanaging problems of the end game.
I dont feel that I have been offensive, unless you put in the same bag the Posts of M. Starvos, which is somehow blunt in his comments, and Posts of mines.

The most offensive sentence I can think of is when I doubted that you implemented a feature which you did not like initially. Thats a rather harmless offense I would say, but if you feel it is one, then I have no problems apologizing for this part of the post.

Please take note also that I'm not asking for something fancy, like video of green elves dancing or whatever you spoke of. I'm asking for a mean to find items, which is a pain to do in big games. Aside from not liking the idea, why do you feel it is a detrimental feature to the game? I think I bring valid points on why it is of importance in big games.

And sorry if I bring again the topic, because on this I have not changed my mind : true, you have created a game which allow players - theorically - to play big & huge games. In practice it asks for the utmost motivation because of the lack of micromanaging tools. And the lack will remain, because you dont see the interests in these tools (see first sentence of the post...).

[johan osterman]

Originally posted by Pocus:
I raised the issue because of the initial remark of Johan K. For him it doesnt feel important to ask a search feature in-game.
My point remain valid : few things have been done so far to alleviate the end game micro.

I think you ought to hold your judgement on this issue until you have at least tried the demo.

[LordArioch]

Illwinter is completely free to do whatever they want with their game. They CHOSE to make a game for our enjoyment (and their own) and we CHOSE to pay money to pay for it. It's nice that they listen to major points usually and make changes (commander scripting anyone?), but although pleasing customers is good for sales they aren't required, or even expected, to search through forum Posts for good ideas to implement.

From what I've heard most of the end game micro has been reduced already, as we now have:
*overview screens
*patrolling/taxes toned down
*easy scripting

and probably other things I forgot.

I think the text file output would be nice because it would be easier to implement, and it would allow you to find items or whatever you were looking for. I have no problem with Illwinter handing out the data for 3rd party programs to make pretty. Maybe I can gather some support on this here rather than just having people tell Illwinter what to do.

[PvK]

Dominions is excellent, and many of the things I like most about it are its unique qualities which seem to be the unique things the developers thought were fun and interesting.

Dominions II looks like it will also be quite excellent. What I'm looking forward to the most are more neat things from the developers' imaginations.

Illwinter does great original work. They don't seem to need much help with player suggestions, although many of the suggestions are good and I'm sure often are helpful.

The fact that a game with such awesomely superior design and detail has come from folks working on their own time, deserves a lot of respect, not to mention politeness.

As cpbeller has posted on another thread, and as Richard has had to repeatedly mention and even close down threads (which he rarely has had to do on other forums), some of you folks, though intelligent and tasteful enough to choose and enjoy Dominions, have been very disappointingly insensitive in your statements towards others.

If you like Dominions, I suggest you try to be polite towards the developers and the other players. Your suggestions are welcome, but don't waste Illwinter's (or the players') time and attitude by behaving like a troll on their forums. They could've implemented a nice new feature with the time and energy they spent having to explain to you that swearing and calling them lazy is ridiculous behaviour, etc.

PvK

[st.patrik]

Originally posted by PvK:




Illwinter does great original work.

The fact that a game with such awesomely superior design and detail has come from folks working on their own time, deserves a lot of respect, not to mention politeness.

I just want to say that I agree completely with this. If Johan or Kristoffer is reading this I hope they know that their work is appreciated, and that they definitely have my respect - regardless of whether they implement any suggestions I have made.

[ October 23, 2003, 21:33: Message edited by: st.patrik ]

[Aristoteles]

I respect IW, but sometime they tend to ignore many questions. Just check out the mod thread for example. I asked the same question 3 times, and still no reply........