lab vault upgraded?

johan osterman · #1 October 23rd, 2003, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by Pocus:
I raised the issue because of the initial remark of Johan K. For him it doesnt feel important to ask a search feature in-game.
My point remain valid : few things have been done so far to alleviate the end game micro.

I think you ought to hold your judgement on this issue until you have at least tried the demo.

LordArioch · #2 October 23rd, 2003, 09:13 PM

Illwinter is completely free to do whatever they want with their game. They CHOSE to make a game for our enjoyment (and their own) and we CHOSE to pay money to pay for it. It's nice that they listen to major points usually and make changes (commander scripting anyone?), but although pleasing customers is good for sales they aren't required, or even expected, to search through forum Posts for good ideas to implement.

From what I've heard most of the end game micro has been reduced already, as we now have:
*overview screens
*patrolling/taxes toned down
*easy scripting

and probably other things I forgot.

I think the text file output would be nice because it would be easier to implement, and it would allow you to find items or whatever you were looking for. I have no problem with Illwinter handing out the data for 3rd party programs to make pretty.

Maybe I can gather some support on this here rather than just having people tell Illwinter what to do.

PvK · #3 October 23rd, 2003, 09:42 PM

Dominions is excellent, and many of the things I like most about it are its unique qualities which seem to be the unique things the developers thought were fun and interesting.

Dominions II looks like it will also be quite excellent. What I'm looking forward to the most are more neat things from the developers' imaginations.

Illwinter does great original work. They don't seem to need much help with player suggestions, although many of the suggestions are good and I'm sure often are helpful.

The fact that a game with such awesomely superior design and detail has come from folks working on their own time, deserves a lot of respect, not to mention politeness.

As cpbeller has posted on another thread, and as Richard has had to repeatedly mention and even close down threads (which he rarely has had to do on other forums), some of you folks, though intelligent and tasteful enough to choose and enjoy Dominions, have been very disappointingly insensitive in your statements towards others.

If you like Dominions, I suggest you try to be polite towards the developers and the other players. Your suggestions are welcome, but don't waste Illwinter's (or the players') time and attitude by behaving like a troll on their forums. They could've implemented a nice new feature with the time and energy they spent having to explain to you that swearing and calling them lazy is ridiculous behaviour, etc.

PvK

st.patrik · #4 October 23rd, 2003, 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by PvK:

Illwinter does great original work.

The fact that a game with such awesomely superior design and detail has come from folks working on their own time, deserves a lot of respect, not to mention politeness.

I just want to say that I agree completely with this. If Johan or Kristoffer is reading this I hope they know that their work is appreciated, and that they definitely have my respect - regardless of whether they implement any suggestions I have made.

[ October 23, 2003, 21:33: Message edited by: st.patrik ]

Aristoteles · #5 October 23rd, 2003, 11:08 PM

I respect IW, but sometime they tend to ignore many questions. Just check out the mod thread for example. I asked the same question 3 times, and still no reply........

MythicalMino · #6 October 23rd, 2003, 11:10 PM

like Krystopher said, they are very busy, and only check the forums once in a while....

I too agree that IW has done something special...even with Dominions I....and i also say congratulations on getting a good publisher like shrapnel....

Gandalf Parker · #7 October 23rd, 2003, 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by Aristoteles:
I respect IW, but sometime they tend to ignore many questions. Just check out the mod thread for example. I asked the same question 3 times, and still no reply........

Well thats going to be a problem. Illwinter is a bunch of guys who make a game for fun. Programmers swamped by our ideas.

On the other hand Shrapnel is the company they hired to take care of things they were swamped by such as public relations. So its understanding that Illwinter hasnt gotten around to reading all this stuff and answering (using the word "ignore" seems abit much). Now if Shrapnel didnt answer, that would be something to complain about.