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November 7th, 2003, 11:04 PM
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Re: Dominions 2. AI. Suggestions, that how to fix it.
I think some games separated AI personalities, but I dunno what games. Civ3? Frankly I don't remember. 
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November 7th, 2003, 11:52 PM
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Re: Dominions 2. AI. Suggestions, that how to fix it.
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I think some games separated AI personalities, but I dunno what games. Civ3? Frankly I don't remember.
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Of course it can be done. And its generally agreed that it would have some benefits. But if the AI was straight coded instead of seperate for each AI then breaking it out would be a major product upgrade. Since solo-play isnt a major part of the game it would be an unlikely project.
That means that lesser fixes should be discussed so that something can be done.
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[ November 07, 2003, 21:55: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]
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November 8th, 2003, 12:16 AM
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Re: Dominions 2. AI. Suggestions, that how to fix it.
One small quibble
Why do you assert that 'solo play isn't a major part of the game'?
The devs have said that they made Dom primarilly to be an MP game, but the number of people playing the game are likely to play more SP than MP, whatever it is that they would prefer to play.
So I would assert that 'solo play *is* a major part of the game' just that the devs may not desire to make upgrades to it as much as they desire to make upgrades to MP. Though outside of balance and bugs, there arn't that many upgrades to MP that are seemingly *that* important 
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November 8th, 2003, 01:54 AM
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Re: Dominions 2. AI. Suggestions, that how to fix it.
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Originally posted by licker:
One small quibble
Why do you assert that 'solo play isn't a major part of the game'?
The devs have said that they made Dom primarilly to be an MP game, but the number of people playing the game are likely to play more SP than MP, whatever it is that they would prefer to play.
So I would assert that 'solo play *is* a major part of the game' just that the devs may not desire to make upgrades to it as much as they desire to make upgrades to MP. Though outside of balance and bugs, there arn't that many upgrades to MP that are seemingly *that* important
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Once again I agree, but it would be nice if we could stop this kind of arguments altogether. Either make the game completely MP, or completely SP, or there is no basis to say that one is more important than the other, and that one should receive less attention and suffer on account of the other.
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November 8th, 2003, 09:56 AM
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Re: Dominions 2. AI. Suggestions, that how to fix it.
Yes SP is a major part of Doms II., that is for sure now.
Still I guess the devs won't be bothered by such coding like multiple AI personalities. I guess that would be countless hours to script and add.
MAYBE in the distant future, they will work on it, but maybe the AI can be upgraded a more simple way. [fix those things on the list.]
Well we shall see. 
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November 8th, 2003, 01:56 PM
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Re: Dominions 2. AI. Suggestions, that how to fix it.
Actually I am 99% a solo player. But the game was built almost entirely around PBEM with some things tossed in for solo play. I dont forsee a major time-consuming rewrite for SP moving to the top of the list over many many MP items. Small tweaks, yes. But once it looked like it would not be simple I stopped considering it likely.
However, there are always major points to be made in that scoring process for personal interest by a dev.
[ November 08, 2003, 13:01: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]
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November 8th, 2003, 05:50 PM
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Re: Dominions 2. AI. Suggestions, that how to fix it.
Hey! The AI is NOT THAT BAD Gandalf, it need lot of tweaking but that's all. I think the devs can update those things from the list, without too many problems. 
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