Life after Death Blessing oddities

Nerfix · #1 November 6th, 2003, 08:35 PM

How about Tombwyrms from 9 Death Sacred Serpents for DT C'tis and "just" dead Sacred Serpents for C'tis?

johan osterman · #2 November 6th, 2003, 08:35 PM

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If you are Desert tombs it will increse the fear of the tombwyrms by +5 , increasing both the area and making the fear effect more difficult to resist.

So the fear value also increases the area of effect for fear? Didn't know that, thanks.

edit: I guess the minor fear value has the same effect of increasing the area of effect as well?

Yes, and every full five makes the morale roll 1 more difficult. Fear 0 is area 5 no morale mod. so a critter with fear 15 has area 20 -3 fear mod. A death mage with 1 death, area 1 morale mod -1. The fear roll works like morale in battles, which means I am not entirely clear about the details, but squad size average morale etc will factor in if squad flees or not.

HJ · #3 November 6th, 2003, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by johan osterman:
Yes, and every full five makes the morale roll 1 more difficult. Fear 0 is area 5 no morale mod. so a critter with fear 15 has area 20 -3 fear mod. A death mage with 1 death, area 1 morale mod -1. The fear roll works like morale in battles, which means I am not entirely clear about the details, but squad size average morale etc will factor in if squad flees or not.

And the area is the same thing as area effect of the spells and the banner effect, i.e. changes every turn and is erratic, I guess. Thanks once again for the clarification.

edit: I also guess that failing a fear roll means the same thing as failing a morale check when hurt or seeing squad member die.

[ November 06, 2003, 18:43: Message edited by: HJ ]

licker · #4 November 7th, 2003, 01:05 AM

Using Miasma I just lost a marshmaster to disease... he was involved in a battle vs. indies, but he had the disease at the start of the battle, just wondering how he could have gotten it, he wasn't cursed or suffering from any other afflictions.

The message that he was lost to disease came up seperately from the battle message, and he didn't die in the battle...

Seems a bit odd to me.

And I didn't ever say that SSs should become TombWyrms, just that it would be nice for them to become 'something'...

HJ · #5 November 7th, 2003, 01:37 AM

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Using Miasma I just lost a marshmaster to disease... he was involved in a battle vs. indies, but he had the disease at the start of the battle, just wondering how he could have gotten it, he wasn't cursed or suffering from any other afflictions.

Maybe you can get the disease from battle wounds like all other afflictions? Or maybe it was starving for a short while sometimes earlier? Did he have any other afflictions?

[ November 06, 2003, 23:38: Message edited by: HJ ]

Keir Maxwell · #6 November 7th, 2003, 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by HJ:

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Originally posted by johan osterman:
If you are Desert tombs it will increse the fear of the tombwyrms by +5 , increasing both the area and making the fear effect more difficult to resist.

So the fear value also increases the area of effect for fear? Didn't know that, thanks.

Very interesting. So the Prince of Death with fear (19) has a fear range of 24 and morale -3? With a helm of fear does he make it fear (20) -4 on morale saves.

Unlike many I do not like my pretenders to charge on in and risk afflictions so sitting back and scaring them away while casting spells is very appealing for my idea of a pretender SC. I really must find some time to test out my "The Dark is Rising" Fear race.

As I posted in another thread the Tomb theme enormously improves the approach I like with C'tis. And its so cool!

Johan's point about having played C'tis tomb theme MP carries alot of weight to me. For now we don't have any better experiance to base our judgement on - do we?

I suspect/hope that alot of the differences in strength of races will be more along the lines of it being easier to get a strong race out of say Arco and Pythium and harder out of some of the less rounded races.

Thanks for the info Johan.

Cheers

Keir

[ November 07, 2003, 01:19: Message edited by: Keir Maxwell ]

johan osterman · #7 November 7th, 2003, 03:01 AM

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Very interesting. So the Prince of Death with fear (19) has a fear range of 24 and morale -3? With a helm of fear does he make it fear (20) -4 on morale saves.

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Horror helmet gives an extra +5 fear (+5 area morale -1). I am not sure if you have misunderstood this or not but judging from your post you might have, but the fear effect is an area not a range or a radius, So fear +19 affects 24 scuares, potentionally 72 creatures if the fearsome being is in the middle of a large flock of creatures.