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November 14th, 2003, 03:25 AM
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Re: How do you get Level 5 Priests?
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In addition, every two Communion/Sabboth Slaves also grants the Master a +1 to all his magic levels. This allows the Master to cast more powerful magic and suffer even less fatigue damage.
The drawback is that the Master can continue to "share" his fatigue costs even unto the death of the Slaves. The Slaves can be driven past unconsiousness and begin to take injury instead of additional fatigue, especially since they don't get the same reduction to fatigue that the Master will get from his increased power levels from the Commmunion. The spell-casting AI is good about not going to such lengths unless the situation is dire, however.
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I never understood how communion works exactly. So, 1 master and 2 slaves get all 1/3 of the listed fatigue if master is casting at his max level, right? And if he has e.g. 3 in astral and casting 2 astral spell, he will get 1/2 of the 1/3 of the regular fatigue, while the slaves will still get 1/3? And what if he uses gems to increase his casting? He gets even more reduced fatigue, while the slaves get the same as if he wasn't using any? And what happens if the slaves are casting their own spells after casting the slave spells? They don't affect the master at all in terms of fatigue, and/or shared benefits, like they would if master casts e.g. personal luck? And you can increase by 1 only the paths you already know, and it doesn't make those you don't know available, right? And what happens when there is more than one master, how is that calculated?
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November 14th, 2003, 04:45 AM
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Re: How do you get Level 5 Priests?
Not sure of the Communion math specifics.
If you have multiple communion masters, they all use the entire pool of slaves. Try not to make your poor communicant slaves explode, as all that fatigue can pile up.
The spell power boosts don't show when you right-click, but I'm pretty sure they only affect the paths the mages already have, and it's pretty clear something's up when they toss WAY more orb lightning than they otherwise would.
When the communion masters cast personal-benefit spells, these seem to affect the communion slaves as well. At the very least, things like Body Ethereal, Fire Shield (!), Elemental Fortitude, Summon Earthpower (now your communicants get reinvigoration!), Phoenix Pyre, Astral Shield et al seem to. Oh, and Pythium Communicants are sacred, in case you want to abuse them even more with Earth 4 (yet more reinvigoration!).
Communion + Relief is a powerful combination because of the fatigue redistribution.
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November 14th, 2003, 01:23 PM
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Re: How do you get Level 5 Priests?
So I take it that communion cannot raise a priest's level?
In that case, isn't it unfair that only some nations can get level 5 smiting priests?
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November 14th, 2003, 01:43 PM
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Re: How do you get Level 5 Priests?
LOL, did you say "unfair"?
Every nation has strengths and when they employ strategies to maximize them, this process creates weaknesses in other areas. If you want Smite, you might have to try a different nation to get it. Or you could “steal” enemy commanders with a wind ride/charm ambush.
The nations with weak priests were an endless discussion point in DomI.
There are sites that allow you to recruit High Priests (although I think you may need a high level priest to find them!). You could always let an enemy uncover such a site and take it from them.
You may have more fun in your quest for smite then you would playing the “regular” game.
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November 14th, 2003, 01:55 PM
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Re: How do you get Level 5 Priests?
How effective is wind ride/charm?
And isn't it unfair as well if that is too effective? LOL.
And are there any counters to wind ride/charm?
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LOL, did you say "unfair"?
Every nation has strengths and when they employ strategies to maximize them, this process creates weaknesses in other areas. If you want Smite, you might have to try a different nation to get it. Or you could “steal” enemy commanders with a wind ride/charm ambush.
The nations with weak priests were an endless discussion point in DomI.
There are sites that allow you to recruit High Priests (although I think you may need a high level priest to find them!). You could always let an enemy uncover such a site and take it from them.
You may have more fun in your quest for smite then you would playing the “regular” game.
Yo
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November 14th, 2003, 03:23 PM
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Re: How do you get Level 5 Priests?
ROFLMAO. I got Bartholomeus on my 2nd turn. So I have 2 smiting level 5 priests. The way they mow down units is outrageous.
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November 14th, 2003, 04:33 PM
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Re: How do you get Level 5 Priests?
Communion/sabbath does pump priest levels.
Wind ride is very potent. However it cannot pick up large targets. Also I think that it cannot pick up ethereal targets. The text claims that earth mages get some protection as well.
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