Ulm, Ulm and more Ulm !!!!

Bossemanden · #1 November 21st, 2003, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by SurvivalistMerc:
Patrols. But it costs you population. And ulm spies I think are kind of hard to catch.

I was under the impression that patrolling would only kill population if there was unrest. Does patroling troops actually kill population indescriminately?

PvK · #2 November 21st, 2003, 07:24 PM

No, only up to the "unrest" number. It looks to me like Defense (or maybe just a higher random chance per province?) also gives patrols that can catch sneakers in Doms II. At least, I see many more scouts being caught in provinces without patrols (both AI and my own), than I did in Doms I.

BTW, my dragon pretender has devoured a few earth mother pretenders, without using special equipment. "They're talon-lickin' good" (tm). They were AI mothers though so they didn't have wicked equipment, and I think they may have had afflictions from sitting on my armies before the dragon arrived.

PvK

SurvivalistMerc · #3 November 21st, 2003, 07:30 PM

I routinely send ulm spies into 25 defense provinces and very, very rarely am discovered. Try sending 4 in at once.

They only cost 30 gp each.

SurvivalistMerc · #4 November 21st, 2003, 07:31 PM

Also, if my spy is instilling an uprising, there will be some unrest.

Hawkmoon · #5 November 21st, 2003, 09:24 PM

I like it! I like it all! Forward my minions of Ulm. We shall show these upstart Pretenders who the one true faith is. Mu Hu Ha Ha Ha......

Seriously, you guys have all shown that there are strats that Ulm can take advatange of to equal out their supposed "3rd rate status"...I will have some sort of meager battle report up after my game tonight against Abyssia led by Dryton.

Psitticine · #6 November 22nd, 2003, 12:03 AM

"Auto-patrolling" starts with a Defence of 10. It isn't very good compared to a real army patrolling around, especially when that army is made out of speedy and/or numerous troops.

I've caught a few scouts with the auto-patrol, but not many. Still, it ain't bad for free.

Oh, and (just as PvK points out) patrolling of any kind doesn't kill anybody as long as there is no unrest, and then only up to the unrest number.

SurvivalistMerc · #7 November 22nd, 2003, 11:29 PM

I have a problem with iron faith. I tried in the demo to research with these iron faith priests in a drain 3 dominion. Most ulm folks take drain 3.

To my surprise, they weren't able to do but 1 research point a day. That obviously won't work. Does anyone else think they need the smiths' ability to have research unaffected by drain dominion? Or is ulm supposed to change to a magic or neutral dominion to get research even when their mages are still weak and their priests are pretty much just average?