What are the strongest summons?

Endoperez · #1 December 28th, 2003, 10:57 AM

Being able to use Void gate efficiently is a special (stacking) ability, and only few commanders have it. Compare it to stealth. And no one can enter the gate without astral magic. So, the only effective summoners being Starspawn priests does not mean that other priests would do any good. And the Stargazer-hero of R'lyeh is better than the priests, or so I have heard. I don't believe the pretenders who came from Void are very effcient at summoning, or even able to.
They are not going to go back after having so much trouble getting out of there in the first place...

Bowlingballhead · #2 January 6th, 2004, 01:37 AM

The game SAYS Cthugul the Stargazer is a good summoner. I've personally gotten much, much better results from standard Illithid priests.

It's interesting that there's a non-race-specific site for summoning void monsters. I'm going to have to put it on a map sometime.

Endoperez · #3 January 6th, 2004, 12:57 PM

Did the priests have experience in summoning or were they fresh ones?

I think the Stargazer is better than the priests, but as I still don't have the full game I only post what I have read elsewhere. And I might remember that wrong.

Kristoffer O · #4 January 6th, 2004, 01:23 PM

Cthugul is not better, he's just less likely to go insane, which is good.

Psitticine · #5 January 6th, 2004, 05:51 PM

If I remember the numbers right, the chances of getting feebleminded during a Void Gate summing are as follows:

Cthugal the Stargazer: 2%
Starspawn priest: 5%
Starspawn mage: (err, not sure here . . . was it 25%?)
Any other Astral mage: 75%

[ January 06, 2004, 15:52: Message edited by: Psitticine ]

Nagot Gick Fel · #6 January 6th, 2004, 10:32 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Taqwus:

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The priestly starspawns have the best chance of getting stuff without getting feebleminded, IIRC. The national hero Cthgul the Stargazer has an even better chance than your average priestly starspawn, but you get at most one... Astral magic matters too, I think.

Give 'em good guards, because the more successful summons they pull off, the better chance they have of getting fun monsters, and good bodyguards makes it more likely they'll live that long.

Ritual of Returning is better than bodyguards when you learn it. Starspawn priest are beefy enough to survive whatever the Gate summons throw at them, and once they get hit, they're back at your capital the next month, ready to summon more things.

Bowlingballhead · #7 January 7th, 2004, 07:19 PM

Well, not quite EVERYTHING - but I've only had a horror attack once.

Ugh. Horrors. Ugh.